The reason Sorcerer/Sage CC is OP in PvP

sorcs far from suck. they only suck in the hands of ppl rerolling sorcs bcause "dey is op" the same way any other class only sucks in the hands of a baddie

someone who knows how to play properly can rip **** up like any other class in the game. I just outlasted 2maraurders on me 1v2... because they were bad. vs a good maro im dead unless i cycle everything perfectly and can dodge his big hits.

anyon in low/no pvp gear will struggle and suck. BUt this isn't the point of the thread

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Healing sage/sorc is not OP at all. Tracer spam, or operative knockdown/suprise ******* combo can burn away ~2/3 of your HP in seconds which is nearly impossible to recover from unless you get help from your team immediately. If force speed is on cooldown, you are going to die, period. You have to be extremely careful with positioning all the time while simultaneously keeping your team up because you depend on them as much as they depend on you for heals.

People really need to roll the classes they complain about and try them out before they post. Balance/hybrid specs are another story and if those were toned down a bit, the QQ would probably disappear.

Can somebody please post this awesome build... I'm almost rank 60 and in full champion gear I still get rolf stomped by every class one on one... I seem to die in a heartbeat to an equally geared opponent.
So much so that I’ve re-rolled. Sorcs really need a buff to survivability imo. Every other class seems to get massive crits.. largest I’ve had so far is 3.1k with trinkets stims etc

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I play a Scoundrel not the Sorc. Every warzone I have been in lvl 50s it has always been BH/Trooper or melee that top the dps boards. I just cant see how how any of these builds is OP on the Sorc/Sage. The low ac light armor , and the fact they are soft targets require them to have a few extra abilities to mitigate. If the class gets changed the melee train will roll it over like a small speed bumb.

I am sorry the original poster had his character hybrid trees nerfed. I did also. I really did not think that any of the class changes so far were necessary. To keep nerfing classes especially the most popular classes in the beginning of the game would be bad for business. If half the folks rolled these classes what is left of the game when the majority get sick of going backwards. Half the subscriptions are lost, server pop takes another hit, and balance was never served. It was just shifted.

I know I for one will not continue to play a game that regresses because we have one person qq. The Sorc/Sage is not the most OP class in the game. It has diversity in abilities that are more useful than other classes such as my Scoundrel. They are required for any kind of survival from what I can see of the class.

It would be better to see construtive posts on how classes could be made better, stronger, more competative. Rather than tearing more classes down again. I hope Bioware realizes this is where other games have gone wrong and failed miserably. Gutting classes leads to failed games. Making a handful of QQ's happy will only cause thousands of people who play those classes to cancel.

Aside from all the problems, whether ranged or melee, sorcs are what you call the hardest as hard comes as an anti-melee caster. Their survivability, their control, it`s all based around controlling melee. Even backlash, really? A bubble that absorbs 3-4.5k damage, and when broken or cancelled, stuns around them for 3 seconds?

Not to mention, when you have 4-6 sorcs, per WZ, with the amount of cc/control they have... it`s just STUPID. They have, very much so, went overboard when doing so.

As a general statement, however, I think stuns and slows need to be addressed. I can understand some classes with a lack of cc/mobility having a stun, I cannot however justify a sorc having one. I also think resolve should be tampered with to slowly build up apon being slowed and snared. If this biggest issue here is melee vs casters, then don`t so much change the classes as you change how a fight between melee and casters goes.

People say sorcs are op, and anti-melee yet I face roll them on my sentinel.. This leads me to believe that the majority of posters who hate on sorcs are having l2p issues. (last time someone posted something to this effect they had a picture of their ui on another thread w/out a single keybimd.. C'mon man lol).they are very predictable, wear light armor, have a Bubble that is gone after one hit, and get owned when slowed following the root from force leap. Believe it or not sorcs aren't completely faceroll and have a more complex rotation then tracerLoL (but definately not as strenuous as a sentinel rotation). Either or stop whining and learn how to counter them.. Almost every spec of any class can do so.

Its easier to QQ on forums.

"May baton mashing no kill da sorc! NURF!"

They are free kil for mara/sentinel AND few other ACs/specs, they cant kill any healer spec, they are easiest class to shut down, they dont have ANY burst.... and yet baddies cry nerf lol. Aint happening.

If you used the time spent whining on this forum to learn your classes, this thread would be dead by now...