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Cost of speeding training ever going to be sane?

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Cost of speeding training ever going to be sane?

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Gonewild
02.19.2012 , 03:48 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Coyotecalls View Post
So, you are saying, "You have the choice of letting the game suck for 40 levels or having a speeder that isn't a peice of ****." Yeah, thats called bad game design.

If you have to AVOID playing the game so you can have something you need to play the game the last 10% of the content, that's just stupid.

So we are back to the point being: The level 40 mount costs twice as much as it should be. I am not paying Bioware money to NOT play the game. People whine about posts like mine saying we should be able to afford things that make the game better without having to sacrifice half the content of the game but you know what?

I'M PAYING FOR THE GAME TO BE FUN.
The game is fun.

Fun is subjective and is different for each player. This game is too easy, including saving up for speeders at 25, 40, and 50. I took slicing as a gathering skill and intentionally avoided purchasing gear, or grinding a trade skill. When I dinged 25, I had 125,000 credits. I'm not a min/maxxer, and I casually play an hour or two a night.

This is a theme park, and as such, generating a profit crafting is going to prove challenging- especially in this game. Quest and commondation items are just far superior. Perhaps BW will affect positive changes in crafting to make all skills viable- only time will tell.

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Coyotecalls
02.19.2012 , 03:49 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by lineschmidt View Post
So you're just ignoring all the posts telling you it's perfectly doable even while crafting?

How convenient
No, I'm not ignoring them I'm reading them and most of them say "Do slicing and make lots of money." I want to level biochem while I'm leveling. To level biochem I need something other than slicing. So no, I'm not skipping my crafting and I'm not taking slicing. Think about this, lets use a real life example.

You go to get a job. You are told you can have the job if you give up buying clothing and food so you can afford the ridiculous price of gas it takes to get to your job. People would be in the streets protesting the costs because the things we need to have quality of life are being over priced to gouge us. I would bet REAL money that these people who "Leveled crafting." and had money for their speeder mount at 40 either had supplies handed to them, spent most of their time grinding instead of actually -playing- the game or sent supplies from an alt. There is no way you can level both crafting and have anything else.
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lineschmidt
02.19.2012 , 03:51 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Coyotecalls View Post
No, I'm not ignoring them I'm reading them and most of them say "Do slicing and make lots of money." I want to level biochem while I'm leveling. To level biochem I need something other than slicing. So no, I'm not skipping my crafting and I'm not taking slicing. Think about this, lets use a real life example.
Except i posted on how i've lvled biochem and yet still managed to get my speeder training at appropriate lvl as have others

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Andryah
02.19.2012 , 04:00 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Coyotecalls View Post
I want to level biochem while I'm leveling. To level biochem I need something other than slicing. So no, I'm not skipping my crafting and I'm not taking slicing. Think about this, lets use a real life example.
You need to be a little more thoughful, for your own benefit, IMO.

If you want biochem, do it. You take bioanalysis and slicing with it. You do not need the biochem specific Diplomacy mission skill set while you are leveling. It's a waste of time and credits so you go with slicing instead, for the credit cow that it is. '

THEN, when you ding 50, or maybe earlier if you are swimming in credits, you drops slicing and pickup Diplomacy and since it's a mission skill up crew skill anyway, and you will have a full set of companions, you can level it to cap pretty quickly at 50, when you have more credits and ability to generate credits.

This is not rocket science. You just need to think it through a bit and exploit what they give you to insure you are credit rich without sacrificing the fun parts of the game.
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chton
02.19.2012 , 04:12 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Agobi View Post
Apparently not easy enough,since I'm 115k short for training at level 40....without spending anything for 40 levels...

OP is right,the prices are too high...
What do you people do to not make money? I'm serious if you claim you didn't spend money ... I honestly can't comprehend how you are short of money. Not trolling here I'm 100 % serious. How?

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Coyotecalls
02.19.2012 , 04:45 PM | #46
Maybe I PVPd to much. They nerfed the PVP rewards because cry babies who can't PVP where upset that you could PVP your way to 50 and have all the same stuff that the people who "Did the hard stuff" could have.

My gear from 14 to 40 cost me ZERO because it was all PVP gear. So yeah, explain to me how I was spending to much money?
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Uruare
02.19.2012 , 05:01 PM | #47
Vanity's expensive. You can save a looooooot of money in these games by divorcing yourself entirely from caring about vanity appeals.

I can't really see rank 2 and 3 speeders as being any sort of real upgrade anyway. The speed increases of sprint and any speeder are increases on your base run speed anyway.

Whoo. 90%, 100% or 110%. If your base run speed were 25 kph, sprint would increase that to 32 kph.

A rank 1 speeder, to 47.5 kph

A rank 2 speeder, to 50 kph

A rank 3 speeder, to 52.5 kph


Best value for your credit is rank 1. Anything more well ought to be for vanity purposes, as the function just isn't there to warrant the costs at 1/10th the price.

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hurja
02.19.2012 , 05:07 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Uruare View Post
Vanity's expensive. You can save a looooooot of money in these games by divorcing yourself entirely from caring about vanity appeals.

I can't really see rank 2 and 3 speeders as being any sort of real upgrade anyway. The speed increases of sprint and any speeder are increases on your base run speed anyway.

Whoo. 90%, 100% or 110%. If your base run speed were 25 kph, sprint would increase that to 32 kph.

A rank 1 speeder, to 47.5 kph

A rank 2 speeder, to 50 kph

A rank 3 speeder, to 52.5 kph


Best value for your credit is rank 1. Anything more well ought to be for vanity purposes, as the function just isn't there to warrant the costs at 1/10th the price.
not so. later ranks offer ability to take some damage without dismounting.

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Coriolan_Martius
02.19.2012 , 05:14 PM | #49
I agree that it is silly to raise speed by 10% but I understand why. The levels are so small that anything that is much faster would break level design and the time sink. I also get the > 200K sink. Both times I ran my toon had 1+ million credits.

I did PvP and all the bonus missions and looted all mobs. That's all. It is very simple to get lots of credits in this game. Actually, I wish we could use them for something.

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Explosive_Lasers
02.19.2012 , 05:22 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Coyotecalls View Post
So, you are saying, "You have the choice of letting the game suck for 40 levels or having a speeder that isn't a peice of ****." Yeah, thats called bad game design.

If you have to AVOID playing the game so you can have something you need to play the game the last 10% of the content, that's just stupid.

So we are back to the point being: The level 40 mount costs twice as much as it should be. I am not paying Bioware money to NOT play the game. People whine about posts like mine saying we should be able to afford things that make the game better without having to sacrifice half the content of the game but you know what?

I'M PAYING FOR THE GAME TO BE FUN.
You don't need a speeder that's 10% faster than the 48k speeder. To say otherwise is, pardon my English, *********** stupid.

And everybody BESIDES you can buy the speeder. With money left over.

It's not insane. It's an optional convenience, that's only slightly better than the previous one, and has an easily achievable price for anybody, even if they've used GTN and crafting.
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Explosive, you always make so much sense. And here as well you do not disappoint.