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Emeda
02.19.2012 , 04:00 PM | #401
Quote: Originally Posted by Skoobie View Post
You are posting enough for all to see.

You were calling someone out for just making things up...when that's exactly what you've been doing.

Or are you going to post proof that the population is declining?
No I called her out for saying something that she knew was a lie. She knew there were only 19 heavy servers but still said that the majority were heavy. 19 is not a majority of 120 or whatever servers.

There is absolute proof to say the population is declining as is there is no absolute proof it is increasing. The only people that know that are not saying a word (Bioware). But if you look at everything and take that into account everything points to the population decreasing.

Things like:

1. All the I quit posts
2. All the my server is dead posts
3. All the OMG we have to have LFG because it takes me 4 hours to find a group post
4. All the charts that show a decline that really have no reason to lie.

Where do you get your stuff to say its increasing?
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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Emeda
02.19.2012 , 04:01 PM | #402
Quote: Originally Posted by Azzras View Post
It is known that BW bumped up the cap on servers to accommodate 2 million people playing at once. You know, to get rid of ques.

I'm sorry that you didn't get into SWTOR, went back to WoW and quit, just to come back to SWTOR.

It's tough, but you'll be ok.
I already disproved that. You cant use that anymore because it is a lie.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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Azzras
02.19.2012 , 04:03 PM | #403
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
No I called her out for saying something that she knew was a lie. She knew there were only 19 heavy servers but still said that the majority were heavy. 19 is not a majority of 120 or whatever servers.

There is absolute proof to say the population is declining as is there is no absolute proof it is increasing. The only people that know that are not saying a word (Bioware). But if you look at everything and take that into account everything points to the population decreasing.

Things like:

1. All the I quit posts
2. All the my server is dead posts
3. All the OMG we have to have LFG because it takes me 4 hours to find a group post
4. All the charts that show a decline that really have no reason to lie.

Where do you get your stuff to say its increasing?
You know, I've seen the same people post those 'I quit' threads for months now.

I even was witness to one person who said he quit, came back with an _ at the end and was posting the same thing.

Your 'proof' is hearsay.

And I'm sorry that I misspoke about the Standard to Heavy ratio. I didn't count.
So you got me. I misspoke. There were more Standard than Heavy. (There were still a ton of Heavy)

Does that mean the game is dead, even though a HUGE chunk of people are playing and having fun?
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Azzras
02.19.2012 , 04:04 PM | #404
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
I already disproved that. You cant use that anymore because it is a lie.
How did you disprove this? BW stated it. So you are saying they lied?

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Skoobie
02.19.2012 , 04:06 PM | #405
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
No I called her out for saying something that she knew was a lie. She knew there were only 19 heavy servers but still said that the majority were heavy. 19 is not a majority of 120 or whatever servers.

There is absolute proof to say the population is declining as is there is no absolute proof it is increasing. The only people that know that are not saying a word (Bioware). But if you look at everything and take that into account everything points to the population decreasing.

Things like:

1. All the I quit posts
2. All the my server is dead posts
3. All the OMG we have to have LFG because it takes me 4 hours to find a group post
4. All the charts that show a decline that really have no reason to lie.

Where do you get your stuff to say its increasing?
Where did I ever say it was increasing?

You see....I didn't. I don't have any proof of that, just like you have no proof that it isn't. But I will say a company usually doesn't open new servers when the population is decreasing.

The difference is that I'm not running around shouting that the game is dying or it's growing without anyway to back it up.

You, on the other hand, are.

So again I ask...please provide this "absolute proof" you have, or please stop claiming something that doesn't exist.

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Matte_Black
02.19.2012 , 04:11 PM | #406
Quote: Originally Posted by Skoobie View Post
So again I ask...please provide this "absolute proof" you have, or please stop claiming something that doesn't exist.
Alot of forum posters forget that "absolute" actually has a meaning beyond sounding cool.
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Emeda
02.19.2012 , 04:11 PM | #407
Quote: Originally Posted by Azzras View Post
Prove it. Show me where the servers are loosing people. You can't. Third party sites can't track population.

Stop trying to act like the game is dead. I posted pics that show a thriving population, and yet you still say DOOOOM.

I had once thought you were above this.

Prove to me they are dead.

I've given proof to the contrary of your claims. All you have posted is hearsay.
Your right 3rd partly programs cant track population but can track server population averages.

In Dec 1.7 million people were playing and those sites showed that. No matter what they do to the server populations caps it still shows that it was steady decline from dec to now

Fill 100 cups with some water. Those sites track how full each cup is. Make 20 of those cups bottles then the site would count those as cups and they would register that some water was lost. The thing is on the graphs it made you would see the loss of water in a specific time period.These server charts so not show that they show a stead decline and you know they are not adjusting the server caps everyday.

So if the site showed it being full full full full heavy heavy heavy then that would show where they raised the cap. Instead they show full full full full very heavy very heavy very heavy very heavy heavy heavy heavy heavy standard standard. That points to a decline in players.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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Emeda
02.19.2012 , 04:13 PM | #408
Quote: Originally Posted by Azzras View Post
How did you disprove this? BW stated it. So you are saying they lied?

Do you see me saying they lied in what you quoted? Yes you do so yes I did say they lied and some other posts I showed that they did.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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mutharex
02.19.2012 , 04:14 PM | #409
Quote: Originally Posted by Azzras View Post
You know, I've seen the same people post those 'I quit' threads for months now.

I even was witness to one person who said he quit, came back with an _ at the end and was posting the same thing.

Your 'proof' is hearsay.

And I'm sorry that I misspoke about the Standard to Heavy ratio. I didn't count.
So you got me. I misspoke. There were more Standard than Heavy. (There were still a ton of Heavy)

Does that mean the game is dead, even though a HUGE chunk of people are playing and having fun?
Even if we ignore the fact that it's the same 10 people (or their forum alts) making those posts, they would still be what? 0.5% of game population?

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Coriolan_Martius
02.19.2012 , 04:16 PM | #410
The population distribution must be very distorted then. The servers I check on have about the same number of people or less(like mine). I have seen nothing but declines or at best stagnation on light pop and standard servers. Also, I am online most of the day so I sample the data very well.

Also, I find it hard to believe that 1.7 million people were all online. That would mean every single subscriber was on at the same time.