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Legendary items should NOT come from raids

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Legendary items should NOT come from raids

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Syrellaris
02.19.2012 , 07:35 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by SlickDevlan View Post
And just like every other form of progression you can choose to participate or not.

P.S. Crafting will NEVER equal content in level of difficulty.

P.S.S. Using the dictionary to define a word that has no meaning in regular English is not smart.
Exactly, you can choose but that does not mean an item should be only obtainable by one form.

P.s. True, but that does not mean you cannot invent very hard and challenging quests to get your crafting recipe for a Legendary weapon or armor set. And Then having to collect the Rare materials used to craft it.

p.s.s. Look up under Legend. Different word for legendary btw is Antique or Artifact. Both quite well existing words.
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Ansultares
02.19.2012 , 07:36 AM | #72
What would casuals prefer developers called exclusive raid drops, if not legendary?

Hardcore-raider tier? I really doubt the hardcore raiders would care if it was even called "no-lifer tier," provided it was bis by a few stat points and had a cool/unique graphic.

I don't even like to raid and I still think there should be exclusive raid rewards.

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SlickDevlan
02.19.2012 , 07:39 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Syrellaris View Post
Exactly, you can choose but that does not mean an item should be only obtainable by one form.

P.s. True, but that does not mean you cannot invent very hard and challenging quests to get your crafting recipe for a Legendary weapon or armor set. And Then having to collect the Rare materials used to craft it.

p.s.s. Look up under Legend. Different word for legendary btw is Antique or Artifact. Both quite well existing words.
Why not?

"Legendary" or "artifact" or whatever term you want to use to call gear has no corresponding definition in the dictionary. Unless you can point to the definition that starts with "Item in SWTOR that...".

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Valkirus
02.19.2012 , 07:51 AM | #74
You are wasting your time with this post. The raiders would have a fit if anyone who does not raid gets something they thought only they should get. Afterall, they would'nt feel so specail anymore. That said....in patch 1.2, BW said all orange gear would be good for end game content with modding. So cheer up, you may not have legendary gear from raiding, but you will have orange gear which will be fine for any raiding you may want to do later.
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Felioats
02.19.2012 , 07:53 AM | #75
Equal gear for equal time invested.

Raiders aren't better, they just play different content. They're afraid that if people could get raid-quality gear without raiding in the same amount of time, no one would raid anymore -- which is very telling about the fact that they, themselves don't even enjoy it and wouldn't do it if not for the lewtz.
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Felioats
02.19.2012 , 07:55 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
You are wasting your time with this post. The raiders would have a fit if anyone who does not raid gets something they thought only they should get. Afterall, they would'nt feel so specail anymore. That said....in patch 1.2, BW said all orange gear would be good for end game content with modding. So cheer up, you may not have legendary gear from raiding, but you will have orange gear which will be fine for any raiding you may want to do later.
Yeah, but you'll need to raid to get the mods to put into that orange gear, won't you?

I'd pay $100/month for a server with operations disabled.
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Nuvem
02.19.2012 , 07:58 AM | #77
Get available in pvp= PPl gonna exploit it
Put in boxes around the game = So ppl gonna create 330950394 chars like they did for much less in Ilum, ruinning the fun of everyone.

I think then, based upon how ppl can play fair, the only way must be raid.
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Sporin
02.19.2012 , 07:59 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Uruare View Post
Oh lordy, here's this argument again.

Ten Years of Bullsith, condensed:

Team Raid: You don't need top gear if you're not raiding, be happy with non-raid stuff for non-raid content.

Team Everyone Else: But we're all paying the same fee and want equal opportunity to have the best stuff.

Team Raid: So go raid, everyone has equal opportunity to raid.


Team Everyone Else: No, we don't all have equal opportunity to raid because we don't all have equal access to people to raid with.


Team Raid: So get a guild, make friends, stop being bad, etcetera, then raid.


Team Everyone Else: But we've got guilds and friends and we're not bad, or wouldn't stay bad any longer than you did before you knew a raid; the problem is time.

Team Raid: Maybe this game just isn't for you.


Team Everyone Else: Bullsith, it's that we don't have time to raid, which is about raiding, not playing the other 95% of the game.

Team Raid: So be happy with non-raid content and non-raid gear.

Team Everyone Else: NO!

Team Raid: GDIAF! Stop being lazy! I can do it, I've been doing it since December of 1408, I raided for 800,000 years and practically invented not standing in the bad with 500 other people, it's all E-Z Mode anymore and you're just too lazy to do it!

Team Everyone Else: Don't care! We've had the same problems since 1408 when we couldn't raid for 800,000 years because our Husband-Wife-Job-Kids-Disabilities-Different Opinions-Time constraints didn't Allow/Enable/Encourage/Help us do so!


Team Raid: You're all bads. GDIAF.

Team Everyone Else: Raid finder pl0x!

Team Raid: NO! Mass hysteria!

Team Everyone Else: Raid finder pl0x!

Team Raid: OM EFF'n G NO, NO AND NO SOME MORE! Don't ever have one or the earth will explode in a giant fireball and everyone will DIE!

Team Everyone Else: Raid finder pl0x!


Eventual Bioware Announcement: We're pleased to announce, for patch A.B.CD, our new Operation Roster! Now you'll be able to match-make and team up for the most challenging content with just a few simple clicks on our shiny new Roster GUI, now with 'O'god please make the people outside the building with pitchforks go home, we haven't seen our families in weeks.' technology!


Team Raid: NOOOOOOOOOOOARGHAKJASL:KJSGKJJSKNEHNJKL:SD:KLGJ!!1 1!!11!!1!!one!!!1!1eleven!!1KL:!jklj!!!! We're unsubscribing NAO!


Team Everyone Else: Hey, remember that thing you told us about dying in a fire? GDIAF. Ten years ago is that way. ----------> Oh, and we win.


Team Raid: A*()UJI#TKL:SDKSLFKJ *)#UJ)JI WKLSDJF WE HATE YOU ALL! You destroyed the game/our lives/our will to live/the internet!


Team Everyone Else: *The user you are trying to verbally abuse cannot be reached for comment at this time. Please leave a message on the Operation Roster sign-up page if you'd like to contact this user!*


Team Raid: AKJKLJ*(UJSDLKFJWKJPIOSJDF!!!!!!!


The end.
You left out my favourite part.. The bit where Team Raid says "This is my job, raiding is hard work!" (Maybe a real life job would narrow that game time down abit for ya? eh?).
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Syrellaris
02.19.2012 , 08:05 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by SlickDevlan View Post
Why not?

"Legendary" or "artifact" or whatever term you want to use to call gear has no corresponding definition in the dictionary. Unless you can point to the definition that starts with "Item in SWTOR that...".
ar·ti·fact also ar·te·fact (ärt-fkt)
n.
1. An object produced or shaped by human craft, especially a tool, weapon, or ornament of archaeological or historical interest.
2. Something viewed as a product of human conception or agency rather than an inherent element: "The very act of looking at a naked model was an artifact of male supremacy" (Philip Weiss).
3. A structure or feature not normally present but visible as a result of an external agent or action, such as one seen in a microscopic specimen after fixation, or in an image produced by radiology or electrocardiography.
4. An inaccurate observation, effect, or result, especially one resulting from the technology used in scientific investigation or from experimental error: The apparent pattern in the data was an artifact of the collection method.


it is in the Dictionary btw. It does not automatically refer to SWtor Gear alone. Artifact has many meanings. Just like Legendary.
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Valkirus
02.19.2012 , 08:07 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Felioats View Post
Yeah, but you'll need to raid to get the mods to put into that orange gear, won't you?

I'd pay $100/month for a server with operations disabled.
You can buy them on the GM. And no..I would'nt pay 100 dollars a month to play on a Operation free server. lol! I am not disagreeing with your aguments on this subject as much as I am being realistic and know how the developers for MMO's think.
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