What SWTOR will be

wtb beta phase.I might even pay for beta swtor.But not the current alpha state it's in atm.terrible.just terrible.

Checking your post history it's just a bunch of negativity, why don't you find a game that you actually enjoy?

Most likely you're just another troll trying to get a little bit of attention on the internet that you're deprived of in regular life.

well they need to change their game plan real quick if they ever want to realize a profit.

It doesn't matter if the game has investors or not. What matters is that it makes more money than it cost to make.

Are you willing to pay 30 $ or 50 $ a month for an MMO? Maybe then an MMO to the "veterans" that need hardcore difficulty and don't want the game dragged down for "carebears" can be made.

yes clearly.It's surely not because swtor was/is a hyped up fail boat that tricked many subscribers.Not only with gameplay but graphics..bugtime.i mean bigtime..sorry.

Mores to the point, you won't see it. The rest of us will and that right there is a great thing indeed.

What will SWTOR be.

Free to play by 2013

I'll answer that by saying I boxed 6 characters on EQ for years. So that's 6 x 15 Euro monthly. So 90Euro pm.

BW got 1 x 15 Euro off me and that's enough.

No dude you don't know your history at all. The Baldurs Gate & Icewind Dale series was created by Black Isle which later was bought by Bioware when Black Isle went bankrupt. Black Isles worked with the Forgotten Realms campaigns. After Black Isles demise, Bioware took over the development of where Black Isle left off and sadly.. The Newerwinter Nights games sucked A.SS!

It wasn't until Bioware made Mass Effect that I started to like their games though Bioware like the "ship" thing far too much and while I can buy the concept of it storywise in ME1 and 2 it's just weird in Tor to be playing as a sith and have a cheesy robot that repeats the same 5 sentences over and over.

This game is nice but comparing it to WoW? It's 2 different markets altogheter IMO. TOR is a single player game with mmo features, and I'd put TOR in the same category as the original Guild Wars games, City of Heroes/Villains, DCUO and CO. The biggest mmos in WoW's Category is Rift and the grandfather EQ2.

Tera (which I've seen ppl talk about on the forums) is not in the same market as WoW either. Tera is a asian (korean) game and asian games follow a total different formula then westener dark/high fantasy type of RPGs.
Whatever you try to prove, TOR is not a "WoW killer" there is nothing that can kill WoW simply because WoW refined Everquest/ultima Online etc mmos into a game that was approachable for everyone. Whether you like WoW or not (I don't) there's noone that can deny how good of a game it is and that Blizzard evolved the old badly designed mmorpgs into something stable and well done.
Secondly Tor is not a WoW killer because it's not the very same type of game as WoW though it has parts that is very similar.

Blizzard has one of the greatest reputations of all game companies. Everything they've ever done has been solid gold. For example; In the early days Blackthorne kicked major a.ss. Please mention 1 bad game that Blizzard's made.

See , i played wow from the start and left went it started catering to ...lets say the lesser skilled...

Im a HUGE SW fan, but im not going to play a game ( no matter how much i love the ip ) thats even easier then the one i left behind, and especially with the same gameplay mechanics..If Tor was more challenging, i would definatly overlook the wow " concepts " on most things, but its not, its heaps easier then wow....

GW2 and even tera look fresh, heres hoping they are not going to be as simplistic as tor and wow.

We need a new vanilla / BC wow ( NOT wrath nor cata ). Heres hoping for these new titles to prevail...