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Attacking republic in Open World is griefing?

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Attacking republic in Open World is griefing?

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Jaick
02.18.2012 , 06:46 PM | #181
I will camp republics as much as I can. I will even try to enter their outposts and kill them in their supposed "Safe zones" because you're never truly safe in an open pvp area.

I just wish there was cross factional chat so I could hear their screams and crying.

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mercturq
02.18.2012 , 06:51 PM | #182
There is a difference between open world PVP and what you described in the OP. What you described was not PVP, it wasn't player vs player. It was players + World Boss, vs Players. Is it against the ToS? I don't know, it doesn't sound like it... especially with BioWare's lax rules (IE we don't give a crap about naming policies on RP servers!). But it would sure ruin reputations on your server, where your guild is known as the cowards who are too scared to fight fair. ... -OR- you can argue this point and say you may be known as the griefer guild, but then that doesn't help your argument.
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rlhaas
02.18.2012 , 06:52 PM | #183
Not even gonna attempt to read this whole thread, but for me it basically comes down to this: PvP = awesome. Repeated slaughtering PvP. If you wanted to fight them, awesome. I wish I was there, on either side. I've been waiting for some actual world pvp. Having said that, if you were tagging the boss and 'protecting' him and than just harassing the other guys, it's no longer PvP. Get your kills and your bragging rights like true PKs, and when you have crushed your enemies, seen them driven before you and heard the lamentation of their women.....leave them alone to kill the dang boss.
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meshade
02.18.2012 , 06:56 PM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by rlhaas View Post
Not even gonna attempt to read this whole thread, but for me it basically comes down to this: PvP = awesome. Repeated slaughtering PvP. If you wanted to fight them, awesome. I wish I was there, on either side. I've been waiting for some actual world pvp. Having said that, if you were tagging the boss and 'protecting' him and than just harassing the other guys, it's no longer PvP. Get your kills and your bragging rights like true PKs, and when you have crushed your enemies, seen them driven before you and heard the lamentation of their women.....leave them alone to kill the dang boss.
But they are not driven back? They are constantly returning for more *** whoopin?
Basically I am protected when I quest on a pvp server, because when somebody attacks me and I fight a mob or the enemy tags my mob then bioware will protect me and send this guy a warning for griefin.... TROLOLOLO

Best server in this game must be RP-PvP then because they couldn't touch those people, they would just say they were rping about protecting that boss from cruel reps? :>
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Yescek
02.18.2012 , 07:00 PM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by rlhaas View Post
Not even gonna attempt to read this whole thread, but for me it basically comes down to this: PvP = awesome. Repeated slaughtering PvP. If you wanted to fight them, awesome. I wish I was there, on either side. I've been waiting for some actual world pvp. Having said that, if you were tagging the boss and 'protecting' him and than just harassing the other guys, it's no longer PvP. Get your kills and your bragging rights like true PKs, and when you have crushed your enemies, seen them driven before you and heard the lamentation of their women.....leave them alone to kill the dang boss.
Or, here's a better idea, kill it yourselves and deny them the loot. But just make sure you ****in kill the thing.

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rlhaas
02.18.2012 , 07:10 PM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by meshade View Post
But they are not driven back? They are constantly returning for more *** whoopin?
Basically I am protected when I quest on a pvp server, because when somebody attacks me and I fight a mob or the enemy tags my mob then bioware will protect me and send this guy a warning for griefin.... TROLOLOLO

Best server in this game must be RP-PvP then because they couldn't touch those people, they would just say they were rping about protecting that boss from cruel reps? :>
I agree to an extent. I get that they're coming back, but they're obviously coming back for the world boss objective, not to be repeatedly denied said objective by a bunch of peeps who aren't even after the boss. I would have rolled them a few times and then had my Op stealth and everyone else roll out until they downed the boss and than immediately call my boys back in to continue the slaughter. At that point, the other guys would have their objective completed and be nice and angry and perhaps some epic world PvP would have started. At a certain point, you just have to back off if it's obvious others aren't into the battle at the moment..which probably had everything to do with just wanting to down that stupid boss.

And yes to Yescek, I wouldn't have a single problem with this if they were actually after the world boss too because that just sounds epic. Two differing groups of differing factions after the same boss; fighting the boss and at the same time fighting each other. That just sounds freakin' awesome.
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Shumney
02.18.2012 , 10:09 PM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Assaultrooper View Post
Its not harrassment in any way.

harrassment is when you somehow get the location of a single player, during multiple days in a row and try to /camp him. THAT is harrassment. One day seeing alot of reps and choosing to attack them or even camp their GY for a few hours is not harassment.
that's exactly what i said. whats with people on the internet immediately going on the offensive and not reading anything?

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Shumney
02.18.2012 , 10:16 PM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by Jaick View Post
I will camp republics as much as I can. I will even try to enter their outposts and kill them in their supposed "Safe zones" because you're never truly safe in an open pvp area.

I just wish there was cross factional chat so I could hear their screams and crying.
Same here, but with the imperials. But like Ive said, there is a line of harassment and pvp, its up to the devs to decide how far it goes before you are taking it to the point of ruining somebodies game play.

In my opinion, DO NOT roll on a PvP server and expect not to get planted into the ground repeatedly in the open world. There are hot spots in all the higher level questing zones. Be aware that you will be attacked.

Is it weak to report getting killed out in the world, absolutely. But on the same note, you know whether or not when you go out to PvP whether you are doing it for fun, or to ruin someones day. I know Im guilty of harassing people. And if I got reported how can I say I wasnt?

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Mofotrey
02.18.2012 , 10:28 PM | #189
If this is true, then it's pretty ridiculously sad...

I played on Firetree, a PVP server in WoW, and stuff like this was not only part of the game, but sometimes more fun than actual raiding. Want to raid Gruul's Lair at 8:00? Better get there at 7 and start killing off Alliance scrubs as they show up. SSC at 9:30? Oh crap, it's going to take us 20 minutes to get in there because there are 3 or 4 Alliance guilds summoning for their raids! Is half your guild on during a non-raiding night, feeling bored? Why not get everyone together to camp Karazahn and deny any Alliance guilds from being able to raid that night? Awesome!
It's rivalry, it's competition, and it's fun. That's what PVP Servers are for. I understand that Bioware doesn't want constant STV-type ganking (Though nights where you're getting camped and have to call in back up and wind up starting a war instead of questing are far more memorable than the nights where you killed 10 tigers and looted 15 raptor claws), but open world PVP ought to be allowed in every form on PVP servers because that's why PVP servers exist.
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mandrillagon
02.18.2012 , 10:43 PM | #190
Whoever was leading the Pub op probably united everyone together to submit a ticket all at once. The op was probably filled with "serious adults" who only have so much time to play a week and feel their experience enjoying the pve side of the game is being compromised by a bunch of Sith kids on their lawn.

Serious and overly civil people usually win in a BS fight when dealing with customer service which seems like what happened in this situation.