The reason Sorcerer/Sage CC is OP in PvP

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Actually, for the most part, Sage dps is pretty mobile. If you time your procs right, you can stay entirely on the move, stopping only to channel a 1.5 sec TK Throw procced off Psychic Projection. Other than that, a 13/28 or 3/7/31 should be inst-casting everything.

I'm also going to have to disagree on the burst dps. It's not quite as high as other classes, but there are basically two ways to get some quick damage out.

First, you can channel a TK Throw to proc presence of mind, and then drop a Force in Balance and TK Wave back to back. This would give you ~8k in the space of 4 GCD's.

Second, you can hardcast TK Wave and chain a FIB onto the end of it. This should unload about 5k instantly due to the slight travel time on TK Wave.

But yes, by all means, please link my post to sorc/sage QQ'ers =)

You have some useless talents in this build.
1. If your going to make it DoT based you may as well go 31 in madness..
DoT's are great, but with a hybrid you dont need them as your main focus.
You would do better getting the extra crit and .5 off your healing .
Lightning Storm is useless if your using wrath.

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#20...MdMbZcMcRsMz.1

this would be a better variant.

You get the CC you need..and you get the extra crit..
and faster heals.


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Tumri this is bad..

Lightning barrage is bugged last i checked. its also pretty un-needed..This also IS NOT a burst build.

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#20...0MzMZfMcRsMz.1
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This build you get all the CC your need, and your AoE's gain an extra 10% damage..
This means that wrath+CL you net a 30% extra dps gain

You get the crit bonus and the AoE root.

You lose out on the force sprint, but with the CC you have you dont really need it.
And its because of this build that wrath and the Lightning CC need to be changed .




A Few things to note Tumri

The main Core CC would be (IMO)

Backlash OR instant cast Whirlwind-

Electrocute ( of course)

Electric Bindings OR Creeping Terror.

The Resolve Mechanic is wierd.
From my experience with backlash its pretty useless when gunslingers or troopers get the ticket with your number on it..and its basically better vs melee ( pretty much only melee)

Instant cast Whirlwind is better vs EVERYONE.

to the point where you can skip backlash and get better utility.
Utility that increases your up time AND burst.

Now this thread can die. I think he pretty much critically destroyed all the OP points.

No, no ,no, we still havet resolved problematic 31/31/31 build

You mean the problematic 0/20/21(and other similar variants).

Now this thread can die. I think he pretty much critically destroyed all the OP points.