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Attacking republic in Open World is griefing?

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Attacking republic in Open World is griefing?

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Jestunhi
02.18.2012 , 10:41 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Vincedaddy View Post
That's bs I will camp everyone I come across and purposefully wipe every repub group I see attempting to kill a world boss. Why? Because I rolled on a pvp server and doing those things I listed is a lot of fun. If bioware wants to inform me that I'm griefing over these things I'll die laughing and instantly unsub because it's far from griefing it's world pvp the illuding concept that bioware can't seem to understand.
Fair enough.

Just don't whine because you were told that it's against the rules, did it anyway, and had action taken against you.
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Jestunhi's responses might be just about the the most asinine and pigheaded responses I've ever read on a forum.

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Cureforpain
02.18.2012 , 10:51 AM | #52
Played wow on a pvp server for over 6 years (For me the game ran its course and I dont plan to go back now or ever, just so you know this isnt a rant). Now, looking back I remember denying and being denied access to loads of content. From raids to world bosses. Sometimes it was frustrating, sometimes exhilarating but now that I look back I can safely say that it was never Boring. Not like this has become. Denying world pvp..on a pvp server and in a game based in Star Wars, now THAT is grief.

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Forsbacka
02.18.2012 , 10:51 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Quantum View Post
Then enjoy getting busted for it. Purposely denying players access to content over and over is griefing, as per the games ToS. Deal with it or go elsewhere.
There is PvP solution for it. People were fine with this in WoW and no one got banned for this issue.

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Evil_Santa
02.18.2012 , 10:56 AM | #54
I remember the good ol' days of Darktide PvP in Asheron's Call 2.

Where you couldn't walk out of the new player temple at anytime between 4am - 2am without being ganked non-stop until you were a hr's run away from any form of civilization.

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Laoi
02.18.2012 , 11:01 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Ziegler View Post
So here is the scenario.

Belsavis World Boss is up. Republic guild is trying to take him down. A group of Imperials attack the repubs.....repeatedly til they abandon the boss.

Imperials get warnings for griefing.


I could have sworn this game said it had open world PVP....and I also could have sworn I chose to play on a PVP server.

So I would like the devs to clarify this.

And a little bit of rant here.
Bioware, you have never been big on the whole PVP thing, so much so that you had to co-opt developers from Warhammer to do it for you. The above example only shows your lack of knowledge about PVP.
A couple of things to enlighten you.
First, open world pvp in the gaming community means.....pvp anywhere, anytime.
On a PVP server, a common practice is denying the opposing faction areas, entrances, bosses....you know...it's almost like....oh I dont know....a WAR...like STAR WARS!!!!

I can deal with bugs, I can deal with slow patches and fixes. (you have been good with patches)...I can deal with alot of things. But one thing I cant stand is a mommy game company babysitting a PVP server.

So I would like some clarification.
Is it ok on a PVP server to actually attack the opposing faction in an organized fashion to deny them areas, quest bosses, or anything else? Can my guild decide to wage war on Belsavis and attempt to deny to the whole world to the republic?

If I kill someone and they come back to the area, am I allowed to keep killing them til they give up? If not, what's the magic number before I am griefing?



One pissed off PVP'er.
i feel with you man. bioware is just cuddling the bads cos all they care for is money. pissed of bads that quit = less money. since there is more bads than good pvpers. we get shat on while they get whatever they want.
cant wait for gw2 srsly...

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matthrms
02.18.2012 , 11:01 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Leandrid View Post
Denying a group of players access to content shouldn't be allowed? Hello, anyone at home? If you don't want to participate in open world pvp, then for god's sake choose a pve server already! It doesn't matter if his group wanted to kill the boss themselves or not. It should be ok if all they wanted was to kick some rep *** for a couple of hours.

PvP in these games today is in the gutter, didn't realize until now how ****** it became.
Actually, it doesn't matter what you think should happen. Bioware owns this game, and open world pvp on their pvp servers is defined as they see fit. An employee determined that the empire group was harassing, and that is it. Besides, you have heard one account of what happened from someone in the empire group - he is likely leaving out details.

If you do not like it, you can always go play one of the (many) successful hard core pvp ga..

o wait.

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Ngamok
02.18.2012 , 11:01 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Ziegler View Post
The whole story, they attacked us first. We did the PVP thing and made a call out on the TS server....

We rolled in and camped the boss, didnt take it down, but protected it instead. Tag the boss as they get there and then wipe them. Actually thought this was cool and enjoyed the PVP. After a bit, most of us left but some stay around harassing the repubs by attacking them while they engaged the boss and such.

Perhaps on a PVE server that would be wrong. But on a PVP server, PVP happens, you have to plan for the opposing faction and IMHO be ready to abandon running a world boss or cancel a RAID because the entrance is blocked by the opposing faction. BW tends to be really carebearish though, so I could see them saying this is harassment or griefing. If that is the case, it's their game and I wont complain about it.
The only part of this story I get out as harassment is the part where you guys tag the world boss with no intention of killing it. Then yea, you deserve the warning. Rest of it is fine.
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YanksfanJP
02.18.2012 , 11:03 AM | #58
Screenshot or it didn't happen
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Talizzar
02.18.2012 , 11:03 AM | #59
In cases like these is that the actual story is far different than the one posted by those that got the slap on the wrist.

I suspect you got what you deserved or got off easy.

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Ngamok
02.18.2012 , 11:05 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Talizzar View Post
In cases like these is that the actual story is far different than the one posted by those that got the slap on the wrist.

I suspect you got what you deserved or got off easy.
Yea, like how he left out important details in his first post and then makes another post on what he says is the whole story. I am sure there was more but he is not telling it.
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