Nerf Premades

I don't object to having a level playing field. I do object to having to wait twice as long for a queue to pop just because someone decides that the best way to play an MMO is completely solo, yet still believes they deserve to win everything they come across.

PvP is a co-op game. If you really don't want to find anyone else to queue with then maybe take up the reins and give some basic strategy to your pug group while you wait for the game to start. It's not going to be less dependent on co-operation regardless so rather than cry nerf, just adapt and find a way to enhance the level of co-operation within your group.

Again, I've queued solo into pugs before and destroyed premades. 4 people queueing together is not an "I win" button and you can't queue as 8.

But seriously OP, you keep saying "those who choose to play solo" or whatever, but I genuinely cannot understand why you're reluctant to find anyone else who enjoys PvP to play with. Why is finding a couple of other guys innately worse than having Bioware make a change that equates to less PvP for everyone?

Okay, you prefer to queue solo and PvP solo, I get that. But a Warzone is a co-operative activity and even if you queue with pugs, the level of co-operation required is still the same?

All a premade is, is a way of making co-operation slightly easier.

So given that your preference is to do Warzones (which require co-op) but to do so solo (which makes co-op more difficult), what is it that stops you thinking "maybe I'll gang up with a couple of dudes from my server to make the co-op part less of a headache for me".

That's the part I can't understand - it's fine to say you prefer to queue solo, but why? Since you find it harder to win (hence your desire to nerf premades) and the solution is available to you, what is it that's important enough to override those factors?

Also, it's very rare on my server to find people who queue completely solo - most is at least two simply because it's a social game where you need to work together...

I have an idea... how about we nerf anything that makes this an mmo lets start with removing guilds and any kind of grouping

ah weekend pvp. one premade after another.

Civil War match we only managed a total of 6 kills. For every one that claims they want a real challenge, there are 100 that just want to pug stomp.

Most want to play as competitively as they can and maximize your chance of winning. Anyone who plays to minimize their chance to win is doing it wrong.

Oh really? So all those premade players who would rather have rated, 8vs8 games with no pugs are doing it wrong? They should be asking for 8 premade vs 8 pug every game to maximize their win-rate?

They hit too hard, they heal too well, and their only real counter is another premade. And before you tell me to roll a premade myself, all those who approved of the Op nerf should have shut up and played an Op, regardless of what class they really wanted to play.

It seems that Bioware listens to multiple threads day after day on the same issue, so let's ramp up our nerf premades suggestions.

However, I don't want premades to be UP, so I propose cross server warzones first so they can get games. Against each other. Not against pugs. Which is how it should be as they have no real competition in pug matches.