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People leaving wz is now out of control.

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Vydor_HC
02.17.2012 , 12:38 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Nangasaur View Post
Which is typically the chief complaint of habitual quitters.

They don't want to get roflstomped by a premade when they get queued with a PUG, so they quit.
Not the one's I've seen. The folks that I see quitting the most are the ones that are trying to maximize wins, and see a no win situation, hence it's detrimental to their character progress.

They fight it out otherwise.

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maradigamer
02.17.2012 , 12:38 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Nangasaur View Post
Which is typically the chief complaint of habitual quitters.

They don't want to get roflstomped by a premade when they get queued with a PUG, so they quit.
Getting stomped and having no chance of winning sucks. How dare players long for enjoyment in their pvp experience!

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Vydor_HC
02.17.2012 , 12:39 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by MightyHalo View Post
They are on the same server, screwing over allies. They get harrased for afk'ing and you never see them again since they are blacklisted.
Won't work here, as there is no mechanism for preventing them from joining a queue. You don't get to pick who you go into a warzone with.

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Nangasaur
02.17.2012 , 12:40 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by JustAnotherVoice View Post
Is it REALLY too much to ask that I have fun during WZs too?
Of course not, but when your fun crosses the line into causing grief for everyone else, you are no longer a valued customer, but a problem player. And I'm not directing that at you personally, just speaking in general.

Everyone is entitled to their own fun. But they're also not allowed to take that fun to a level that causes everyone else to suffer.
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Vydor_HC
02.17.2012 , 12:40 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Bloodtau View Post
Actually they DO get away with it.

Calling out an afker's does what exactly? Won't get them banned, thats for sure.
It just inflames the situation making it far worse than it should be.

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Nangasaur
02.17.2012 , 12:41 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by maradigamer View Post
Getting stomped and having no chance of winning sucks. How dare players long for enjoyment in their pvp experience!
You're right. How dare them long for a match with a full team of 8 vs. 8, only to get down by 1 point and be undermatched because 2 quitters just left.

How dare them long for an enjoying pvp experience.
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02.17.2012 , 12:41 PM | #57
It's a game, and I want to play it. I'm not going to learn to enjoy 2v6 because more than 3/4 my team is literally useless. I'd rather do something else. I'm not going to learn to enjoy pointless combat with random people with no regard for competing to win the match. I'd rather do something else.

Premades are the only real partial salvation from a significant chance of completely un-fun warzones now. But I don't always have a group wanting to PvP. Or, frequently, it's 5 or 6 people so we don't all get to premade. The 4 man limit is awfully small (like the warzone player count).

Otherwise, you can always quit and try again in a minute. For now. When a debuff goes live I'll certainly consider if I want to keep playing. I presume it's coming before significant performance optimization and any sort of rated, competitive pvp.

The small 8 man teams of this game mean that complete idiocy on the part of only a few members completely destroys a team.

Given the options of staying on a completely garbage team with only pointless combat to be had or doing something else, I'll do something else.

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maradigamer
02.17.2012 , 12:42 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Nangasaur View Post
Of course not, but when your fun crosses the line into causing grief for everyone else, you are no longer a valued customer, but a problem player. And I'm not directing that at you personally, just speaking in general.

Everyone is entitled to their own fun. But they're also not allowed to take that fun to a level that causes everyone else to suffer.
Agreed. But how is quitting different from getting three (or more if sync queuing) of your friends together to farm the full clock on some poor team that has no chance not taking the fun out of the game for others? And why does this game promote that sort of griefing by making slow wins or even slow losses so much more profitable than a quick win?

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Bloodtau
02.17.2012 , 12:43 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Nangasaur View Post
You're right. How dare them long for a match with a full team of 8 vs. 8, only to get down by 1 point and be undermatched because 2 quitters just left.

How dare them long for an enjoying pvp experience.
It joins people back in seconds.

You are just spitting empty air now. Get a new complaint.

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MightyHalo
02.17.2012 , 12:44 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Vydor_HC View Post
Won't work here, as there is no mechanism for preventing them from joining a queue. You don't get to pick who you go into a warzone with.
Yeah it works wonders on afk'ers. They don't want people to know what they are doing, but I have no problems ensuring every WZ knows who is doing it.

It has helped greatly, because nobody quits on my teams anymore, and it has created a trend on our server where others have ran with it.

Most of the ones called out you never see again.