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Huttball - stealthing in the goal line = clear exploit

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Huttball - stealthing in the goal line = clear exploit

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Starbuckx
02.17.2012 , 04:42 AM | #71
Sounds like good tactics to me.

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Machr
02.17.2012 , 04:43 AM | #72
Fix the exploit where people are charging enemies on the edge of the pit. They can just jump into the pit and charge up to the goal line. Obvious exploit! plzfizasaprage.com

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FinNaritus
02.17.2012 , 04:43 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by bumstah View Post
Yesterday I joined a huttball only to be rolled and lose miserably in a cold game of 0-6. What happened was there were always at least two stealthers in our goal line camping. The enemy ball carriers will purposely jump down to the pit right below the goal line and toss the ball up to a stealther before any of us could react. The stealther will break stealth and score, then pop a ability only to vanish again.

Half the team is trying to go for the ball while the other half is desperately trying to find the campers to no avail. It was probably the worst pvp I've experienced. the game was over in less than five minutes.

Before anyone says "why don't you kill the ball carrier before they go near the goal line?" Must I remind you that falling to the pit is a much faster way to go closer to the goal line, there's no fire or walkways to navigate through. A sorc would carry the ball and use his dash ability to reach near the goal line from the bottom pit and toss it up to a stealther.

I have been in four huttballs now with this exploit and being repub its already hard enough to win on my server. If a visible enemy is standing near our goal line and they toss it that's completely fair, but a stealther is just insanity. They just wait near the goal until a ball carrier comes out and unstealths to score the ball.

Please fix bioware, it is by far the worst exploit ever.

EDIT:

TL DR (because some are reading impaired)

-A stealther camps by the goal line to receive the ball
-Ball carrier goes through the pit, ignoring fires and throws to stealther
-Once they receive the ball, they have full health, at least 1 stun and a cc break ability.
- Advantage of the confusion around them.
-They're only a few feet from the goal line.

Thats like telling the Tampa Bay Lightnings of the NHL to stop playing the trap.(Very hard defense to break through where the set up is 2-1-2). Its called strategy. Theres many stupid ways to win in huttball. Hutt games dont play fair. The best strategy in huttball, is the dirtiest strategy.

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Machr
02.17.2012 , 04:51 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by bumstah View Post
I think this is a good post to use to clarify:

I did NOT say stealthing in general is an exploit. I said stealthing by the goal line and waiting for the ball to be passed is the exploit. And must I repeat myself? They throw it from the PIT. If they at least manage to cross the catwalk then theres no argument, theyve certainly earned it.

How is this fair? This is clearly not intended and an exploit. Why is that so hard to understand?
If they didn't intent people to actually use the pit for anything else than being knocked down into, they would have put a wall up on the edge of the pit. I don't believe for a second that the height of the edge up from the pit being low enough to throw, pull or charge is an "overlook" or not intended.


Also, you are talking about having to "earn" the right to pass the ball. Just because you have an idea that the only correct way to get to the goal line is to walk the fires etc, doesn't mean that everything else is an exploit. Again, the height of the edge up from the pit would suggest that it is indeed intended to be used. And if people can stand there and use friendly grip, or charge enemies, then I really don't see why stealthers can't utilize their advantage like everybody else. Sure, it's harder to see and to counter. But a strategy isn't an exploit just because it's hard to counter. (and there are several counters described in this thread).

If you actually plan ahead, you can even wait by a fire on the walkway and pull the ball carrier up into the fire from the pit. Done it lot's of times. But again, wouldn't that be an exploit, since you are using the walkways to defend against an attack from the pit? Hmm, guess so

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DarthSalt
02.17.2012 , 04:52 AM | #75
OP:
Thank you so very much for your extermely entertaining joke thread! I was smiling through all 8 pages, keeping me nicely entertained while waiting for WZ queues at 4:30am (sleep is a waste of time).
. . . because no-one would be dumb enough to let this happen 6x in one match. Maybe a jellybean . . .nah.

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SmokingGoose
02.17.2012 , 04:57 AM | #76
If they had 2 stealthers camping the goal line your 8 people should have easily overpowered their remaining 6.
You lost because your 8 were worse than their 6.
Thus your team was bad and would lose in any situation.

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Dorkfrey
02.17.2012 , 05:02 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by SmokingGoose View Post
If they had 2 stealthers camping the goal line your 8 people should have easily overpowered their remaining 6.
You lost because your 8 were worse than their 6.
Thus your team was bad and would lose in any situation.
But it's easier to WHINE on the forums and ask for nerfing neh?

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Ealhdun
02.17.2012 , 05:17 AM | #78
Ah the old people with a better tactical insight are exploiting. You are correct of course, but the flaw they are exploiting is a PEBKAC one and that is not against the game rules.

Next up, pulling allies out of the pit and on to the game ledge. (A power also used by a stealther no less!) Followed by Someone charged me onto the ledge while I was healing from it.

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timewatch
02.17.2012 , 05:55 AM | #79
Yeah, there's so many ways to move the ball from force jump and allies pull. There's nothing wrong with a stealth pass. Personally, I like huttball much better if everyone just ignore the ball. If someone toss me the ball, i throw it away immediately. That's how i play! Much more fun.

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fredsaase
02.17.2012 , 05:57 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by timewatch View Post
Personally, I like huttball much better if everyone just ignore the ball.
Huttball without the ball would just be the MMO version of American Gladiators.
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