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Do not roll "Need" for companion gear.

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Do not roll "Need" for companion gear.
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NessusFett
02.16.2012 , 01:59 PM | #841
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
So, troopers can continue to need for their companions...
not unless every drop has aim on it....
and their companion uses aim as well...
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02.16.2012 , 02:01 PM | #842
I have noticed a crazy amount of ignorance regarding the basics of loot etiquette in TOR.

I suppose that is the double-edged sword of a title like Star Wars.

It brings in the numbers, but a lot of those folks are Star Wars fans trying an MMO, not MMO players trying Star Wars.
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02.16.2012 , 02:02 PM | #843
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
So, troopers can continue to need for their companions...
As an operative, the companion I use also uses the same stats as myself, and one I don't use also does. They get my hand-me-downs, but I don't roll need for them. I like to believe the majority of people are honest and decent at heart and won't take advantage of loopholes like this. And if they aren't, well, they are the ones that have to live with themselves. We aren't always punished for our transgressions, but we are always punished by them.

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ChicksDigHarleys
02.16.2012 , 02:07 PM | #844
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
I'm responding to someone who said that he would be "forced to roll on stuff that he didn't necessarily want"

Forced is a blatantly untrue statement. He would choose to.

After that I speculated as to why he's uncomfortable with that idea.
I can only guess you are arguing for the sake of arguing. NBG loot systems have been around long enough that you should know why they exist, whether you agree with the concept or not. I can't believe you don't see how switching from a tiered rolling system to a straight roll/pass would alter many players' rolling habits. Need/CC need/greed still allows people to get blue or better companion gear without hosing other players, especially when the need option will be regulated by the AI.

Anyway, I think I'm done with this thread again now that my side won.
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Setanian
02.16.2012 , 04:28 PM | #845
Quote: Originally Posted by Kindara View Post

Oh and I'd Fire You for not considering the audience of this game which is an MMO. A game geared around social activities and community.
Well done for missing the whole point... I don't care if they add 45 different buttons to keep you all happy.

It's the whole add a button instead of fixing the real problem that I was talking about. But you go on and continue posting about stuff you have no clue about.
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02.16.2012 , 04:42 PM | #846
Quote: Originally Posted by Akash View Post
I have noticed a crazy amount of ignorance regarding the basics of loot etiquette in TOR.

I suppose that is the double-edged sword of a title like Star Wars.

It brings in the numbers, but a lot of those folks are Star Wars fans trying an MMO, not MMO players trying Star Wars.
Loot etiquette established in other games does not fit the systems placed in this game. Please stop trying to force players of this game to adhere to loot policies designed for other games.
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Grecanis
02.16.2012 , 04:46 PM | #847
Quote: Originally Posted by terminova View Post
The companions are an extension of the character, and gear upgrades for the companion directly affect the character when soloing and in groups when the players companion is active. I would agree with you if the game's solo content wasn't tuned for having an active companion, but it is and I don't. Yes, while you can try to solo the "solo" content, it will be harder and, in some cases, almost impossible or extremely time consuming.
So, as an altaholic I play all my alts as an extention of each other (supplying each other) ..so using your example, I should be able to need on stuff for my alts too?

* for the record, I'm against the added button. I'd rather just have the need roll restricted to armor type + primary stat. Because other threads on this subject have shown me that three choices are already too many ..I can't see where a fourth won't also be abused.
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02.16.2012 , 04:49 PM | #848
Don't attack low level people in PvP, don't ride your car on the station (I know, but call it a car), don't QQ on the forums, don't *** in my pool. Seems like a lot of people want to take the freedom of playing away from others. Flashpoints and such are not to be experienced, it seems, but as farming runs to get gear. Madness, utter madness. Which is why I always pass on the loot in group because someone--who will more than likely use the gear for their alt or sell it--will cry if they don't get the item (that's every item from every drop from every run...), but whatever.

I suppose no one should ever use the "greed" bnutton--which brings to mind, why, if people say don't use "need" to gear up a companion, they don't mind if someone--usually themselves--push greed. Best to take need and greed out and give all the loot to the one wearing the biggest diaper.

I am being over the top here on purpose. The buttons are there to be used. Master looter, round-robin, and free for all are there for a reason...any other concerns are to be worked out by individuals in the groups, not dictated by someone on the forums.

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02.16.2012 , 04:52 PM | #849
Quote: Originally Posted by Grecanis View Post
So, as an altaholic I play all my alts as an extention of each other (supplying each other) ..so using your example, I should be able to need on stuff for my alts too?

* for the record, I'm against the added button. I'd rather just have the need roll restricted to armor type + primary stat. Because other threads on this subject have shown me that three choices are already too many ..I can't see where a fourth won't also be abused.
Your chacters companions can make use of the bind on pickup items you win. Your alts can not. So it's not really the same thing.
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Grecanis
02.16.2012 , 05:03 PM | #850
Quote: Originally Posted by Revenaught View Post
Your chacters companions can make use of the bind on pickup items you win. Your alts can not. So it's not really the same thing.
Yeah, you're correct for the most part. But the point I was aiming at is that when you go past the most conservative definitions and add in things such as companions then you are basically giving licence for players to roll cc/need on anything they can find plausable justification for.

I like that they are planning on restricting the need roll but am confused as to why they want to add a button. As plausable justification can probably be found for just about everything else.

Seems like unneeded coding to me.
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