What does the 1-49 bracket teach us about PVP gear?

heh, nobody said you'd haveto play that way. You could grind out and compete in "rewarding" PvP. I just don't give a flip. 10-49 was fun the whole way through. 50 is just boring and lame. It's not fun to faceroll people because you outgear them, nor is it fun to be the recipient of said facerolling.

At least, that sort of thing is not fun if you PvP for the fun of competing with and killing other players.

Guild Wars 2 gets it, it's why gear/level is irrelevant in their "scenario based" PvP. I'd like that option in SWTOR. Fun PvP is it's own reward, and I don't need anything else. If I wanted "phat loots" or got any satisfaction from that whatsoever I'd be doing PvE.

LOL. ANOTHER GW2 reference! I swear why don't ya'll just play that....

So......... you either faceroll everyone or get facerolled by everyone? So what happens when two equally geared/skilled players meet? Oh and BTW, THAT NEVER HAPPENS [/sarcasm].

You missed the sarcasm of the previous post. So I'll just let you know that my previous posts say.."I don't like to grind". But I am also not being such a baby about and run to cry on forums saying "OH GRINDING IS SO BORING, NOT FUN, PROGRESSION NEEDS TO GO, I SHOULD BE ON THE SAME LEVEL BY PUTTING IN X HOURS (EVEN THOUGH HE PUT IN 20X HOURS)...BLAH, BLAH".


BW MADE IT EASY FOR YOU!!!: REROLL (even with the same class if you want to....)

I like PvP and eventually would like to try raiding, so I will grind (and will not whine about it).


You like PvP, you will not grind because it is not fun (reroll or stf and/or quit).

People post comments like mine because hitting level 50 and going to PvP is like having a monkey that acted like your friend suddenly throw poo in your face. Bioware's design for PvP is inconsistent between the leveling up experience, and the level cap experience.

Possible Solutions:

1) Remove stat/gear normalization from the 10-49 scenario based PvP so people know what they are getting into up-front. This could have saved me a considerable amount of time as I'd have immediately unsubbed.

2) Make the level cap scenario based PvP normalize stats/gear the same way as the 10-49.

3) Offer an optional flag to play stat/gear normalized WZ's at 50 for no reward. People like me could play there and get no rewards (and not care that we got no rewards). You could keep doin what your doing and have all the fun that provides you.

What are you talking about? Did you buy this game solely to PvP? Seriously!!!? You get XP when you play 10-49, just like in open world. What is so inconsistant about that? Did the though ever occur to you that you might be undergeared when you hit 50? Did you even quest? Sorry, but there is no excuse for being undergeared in this game except for lazyiness (or not having fun, or only PvPing ,whatever you want to call it). YOU BOUGHT A RPG BECAUSE OF ITS PVP? LOL, LIKE I SAID "JEDI MIND TRICK" THIS IS NOT STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT. If you get owned by an elite AI(+HP, +GEAR, whatever) while questing, the same or worst should happen in PvP.


The problem is your and others (TORLEEN) stance: "Even things out"

Translation 1: "I want to keep my lvl'd abilities. I still have an edge over some in my bracket by means of available abilities, lower CDs, etc..... I can still faceroll; without grinding......"

Translation 2: "New level 50 sucks, my advantage is gone and I am being facerolled. I don't want to go grind, its boring..........(light bulb flashes)............. Screw BM's. They should be nerfed. They only beat me because of their gear."


Even though it pains me, I have to be the anti-common sense repellant.

I have a friend who dinged 50 yesterday. He is already in 2 pieces of Champion and two pieces of Centurion. Why did this stupid thread get ressed? Are people still not understanding how easy expertise is to get?

Remove the PVP gear and you will be complaining about getting rolled by everyone who raids in a few months. Swtor has only been out for 5'ish weeks. A couple of content patches down the road and you would fall over dead when a raider even looks at you.

What is stopping you from Re-Rolling? If you enjoy that bracket so much, then play in it.


You bought a RPG and you hate gear/progression? Talk about irony. Your hypocrasy knows no bound....