Do not roll "Need" for companion gear.

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Do not roll "Need" for companion gear.

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ChicksDigHarleys

02.16.2012 , 11:28 AM \| #821
Was done with this thread, but saw in the dev tracker a dev finally commented on this topic after God knows how many threads/posts about it. Good to see devs finally agree with us that think it's BS to allow straight up "need" rolls for companions. Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian You know, I've worked in software development for some 30 years. I've never heard of this idea where-by you get something so blatantly wrong, and instead of fixing it, like that players of the non-matching class just cannot press the need button, you actually add another button. If a PM brought this to me in my office, I'd fire him/her. I don't see a problem. They'll still have a "need" button that will be limited to classes that the gear is stat appropriate for, and they'll add something like "companion need" if you're rolling for companions or to strip out mods, and leaving "greed" if you're just going to sell it. IMO this is how it should have been at launch.
You are playing a frickin video game. You are not hardcore by any reasonable definition.

Setanian

02.16.2012 , 11:31 AM \| #822
Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys Was done with this thread, but saw in the dev tracker a dev finally commented on this topic after God knows how many threads/posts about it. Good to see devs finally agree with us that think it's BS to allow straight up "need" rolls for companions. I don't see a problem. They'll still have a "need" button that will be limited to classes that the gear is stat appropriate for, and they'll add something like "companion need" if you're rolling for companions or to strip out mods, and leaving "greed" if you're just going to sell it. IMO this is how it should have been at launch. Why not just have the need button shown to players that can actually 'use' it? Why add yet another button? So, I can press the 'need' button, but it won't work, because I don't match the class? What happens if the gear is appropriate to all classes? Can I 'need' and then give the win to the companion? All this is going to do is add more opinions and complexity to an already archaic system.
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ChicksDigHarleys

02.16.2012 , 11:36 AM \| #823
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian Why not just have the need button shown to players that can actually 'use' it? Why add yet another button? So, I can press the 'need' button, but it won't work, because I don't match the class? Haven't seen the interface since it's not even in testing, but I'd guess the need button will be grayed out if it's not class appropriate. What happens if the gear is appropriate to all classes? Can I 'need' and then give the win to the companion? Sure...why not? All this is going to do is add more opinions and complexity to an already archaic system. What system do you recommend if this is archaic? Just pass/roll? No thanks.
You are playing a frickin video game. You are not hardcore by any reasonable definition.

Setanian

02.16.2012 , 11:52 AM \| #824
Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys What system do you recommend if this is archaic? Just pass/roll? No thanks. So if the gear is not class dependent; <Need> <Need For Companion> <Greed> <Pass> I press <Need>. Then.. Hey that's not for your class.. Me: It's for my companions class Then, But you should have pressed <Need for Companion>, Me: bah.. I need I press Need .. And we're off on the same 6 thread thousands of posts long again. What's wrong with Pass/Roll? PROs It's faster It's neater It's appropriate It's works with no fuss CONs Players don't get to whine like babies because they lost something they 'think' they had an entitlement to, which they never had.
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Irusan

02.16.2012 , 12:39 PM \| #825
Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys Was done with this thread, but saw in the dev tracker a dev finally commented on this topic after God knows how many threads/posts about it. Good to see devs finally agree with us that think it's BS to allow straight up "need" rolls for companions. I don't see a problem. They'll still have a "need" button that will be limited to classes that the gear is stat appropriate for, and they'll add something like "companion need" if you're rolling for companions or to strip out mods, and leaving "greed" if you're just going to sell it. IMO this is how it should have been at launch. Agreed. The amount of butt-hurt and QQ from the "I want to need on everything" crowd puts a smile right on my face.

valencee

02.16.2012 , 12:44 PM \| #826
Quote: Originally Posted by Halofax I usually look to see if anyone needs the piece, if they dont appear to I will politely ask if I can roll for my companion. Just wait, if they put in a LFD tool, this will be every post on the forum. I always greed for my companion and I hate people (sounds like you are in this category) who wait to the last moment after everyone rolled greed to say "mind if i need for my companion?"

chton

02.16.2012 , 12:51 PM \| #827
Quote: Originally Posted by Kindara ...Why dont you just try being honest with them ... because trust me people will figure it out and you know what...they will black list you. Honesty is the best policy just ask if you can roll for your companion on some stuff people tend to not mind if your up front with them unless your taking gear from someone in the group. That's why cross server LFG is so awesome. Try to black list some one across all the servers.

ChicksDigHarleys

02.16.2012 , 01:05 PM \| #828
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian So if the gear is not class dependent; <Need> <Need For Companion> <Greed> <Pass> I press <Need>. Then.. Hey that's not for your class.. Me: It's for my companions class Then, But you should have pressed <Need for Companion>, Me: bah.. I need I press Need .. And we're off on the same 6 thread thousands of posts long again. Except...you won't be able to need on something your class can't use with the change. Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz No, force is blatantly untrue; it's a choice. You're just saying that you personally would choose to roll on stuff that you don't necessarily want. There's a word for that: "greed" It makes you uncomfortable because you have to deal your own greed and selfishness. WTH are you talking about?
You are playing a frickin video game. You are not hardcore by any reasonable definition.

Jonlinar

02.16.2012 , 01:07 PM \| #829
It's been a while since I posted in this thread and I just wanted to say that I happily need for companion gear.

Kindara

02.16.2012 , 01:08 PM \| #830
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian You know, I've worked in software development for some 30 years. I've never heard of this idea where-by you get something so blatantly wrong, and instead of fixing it, like that players of the non-matching class just cannot press the need button, you actually add another button. If a PM brought this to me in my office, I'd fire him/her. I like the Idea whre Companions get elevated over greed but not need. This is an MMO not a single player game. If your own personal companion needs to solo over other players in an MMO then gather commendations and buy your companions orange gear. If WoW's roll system got something right in the last few years it was now allowing you to roll NEED for something that you couldn't or shouldn't actually use unless there was no matching player for that item. Oh and I'd Fire You for not considering the audience of this game which is an MMO. A game geared around social activities and community.

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