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So poweretech dps in pvp....

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So poweretech dps in pvp....

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WickedImage
02.16.2012 , 10:11 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Taerrik View Post
I play PT, valor 55, and I have zero issues with dps and thats when I am specced into ST/pryo

When I am fullpyro, standby for 500K+

Im sorry but this is a L2P issue, change up your rotation or something
Qft, PT's can be awesome.
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DimeStax
02.16.2012 , 10:11 AM | #12
I agree that PT's are fine, and they are actually one of the better archtypes I've seen. I'm in all champ and a few peices of battlemaster gear and I would say that based on my PvP experience I would definitely roll a PT as a PvP alt. I'm not sure about lower levels but geared ones are very tough to beat, and I'v even thrown fits irl based on the amount of damage they did to me: I'v said stuff before like "W.T.H. I thought they were supposed to be a tank, how the heck did they kill me so fast?" I think it has something to do with a few of their close range moves being elemental damage which completely bypasses armor.

Sorry bro, have to agree with the other posters that this is L2P situation... or maybe just know that the general consensus is that PT's are fine and that everything might be fine once you get some better gear.

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Ace_Odear
02.16.2012 , 10:11 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Labradoraki View Post
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LVL 50 NOW!!! so lower level expiriences are useless

700 damage on flame burst

3000 damageon railshot which is on COOLDOWN!!!

1300 damage of thermal detonator.... which is again on COOLDOWN....

1250 damage on unlaod WHICH IS AGAIN ON COOLDOWN....


Now lets think that msot 50 characters are from 16000-19000....

Discuss how not viable poweretech is on pvp as a DPS, and afail all classes are supposed to have dps capabilities which poweretech clearly lacks....Plus our armor is weak without the special tank skill which destroys your weak dps even more
Fortunately for you im not one of those L2P morons we get in here, so ill try to see if i can help. I run a parakeet spec which isnt as dps focused as full pyro and i do fine.

Now im assuming your running a pyro spec by use of your TD. Now im not a pro, but you arent mentioning your constant DoT from CGC. And you havent mentioned your opening rotation. You didnt include RP which is on a 8sec cooldown and has a 45% chance(if spec'd correctly) to proc a free railshot.

As a parakeet I open with, from range...

IM, RS, Unload, after that i close to melee(jet charge) and go FB, RP to proc another RS all while spamming rapidshot.

I think what most pyros dont understand is....

NEVER STOP SPAMMING RAPID SHOT. Spam your little fingers everytime you are not using a bility. I get close to top damage most WZs (1-5th) and im not a full dps spec. After running this spec for about a month and playing a 23 merc i realized that a majority of my dps comes from never stopping my rapidshot.

If they are running and you are having trouble finishing them off, vent heat if you have to and hit them with missle blasts. They are instant cast and while they cost alot of heat they can knockdown that last 20% so you can finish them with the DOT + rapid shots.

so basically if you constantly spam rapidshot, and i mean constantly, you should see better results.

IM, RS, rapid, unload,rapid, FB,rapid,RP,rapid,RS, rapid, TD,rapid....etc.

rapidshot with the dot is a good portion of pyro dps. Its all about knowing when to close the gap. When to go into melee range that usually determines my outcomes. I use range to get them to 75% then jump in with my FB,RP rotation.

hope it helps, im not a pro but that seems to work best for me...spam that rapid shot every second you arent using a ability.

From what I understand most pyros open with IM to ensure the dot to proc a railshot.
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TyrasXIII
02.16.2012 , 10:13 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Labradoraki View Post
they do need a buff in damage so they can have a dps spec... currently we can only be TANKS and some weak tank with weak damage.... they need increase in their elemental damage attacksa to be able to compete well with others....

also juggs are op since they have many cc, good damage

marauders are fine but need to be nerfed with less survability and escape

and sniper needs a buff because he dies immidiately if they focus fire or ambishedd by stealthd classes

also shadows is balanced but need to make it better like increase survability and decrease dps

lol.... i think, judging from this statement, that you regularly get pwned by juggs/Mara's and ur upset about it lol

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Ramsuz
02.16.2012 , 10:14 AM | #15
Any good PT should crap all over a warrior.

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WNxAres
02.16.2012 , 10:16 AM | #16
I'm a vanguard, which is the republic equivalent to the PT and I do great damage. I'm in all champion dps gear (besides boots, and earpiece I believe) and I'm not too squishy and I'm not too absorbent. I have around 15.5k health and if you hit your cooldowns (relics/+crit power you get) you can easily knock someone to half, even lower, health.

IMO it is a l2p issue because before I was spec'd tactics (middle damage tree) but when I respec'd into the shared tree my damage skyrocketed. Once you have a line-up that you're comfortable with you can really be a damage dealer. I'm usually in the top 3 for damage on my team if you're focusing on damage (I do that, while focusing on the objective).

Just get a good line up that you're comfortable with and you can do fine.

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SeloDaoC
02.16.2012 , 10:17 AM | #17
PT are fine, the pyrotech more then fine

mobile, more damage then gunnery/assault, grapple, shields, more health, deah from above and more.

As a gunnery commando, if i get a pyrotech PT on me, im dead as soon as i get them on me, i just dont know it yet.

If anything, their a bit TO powerful against ranged classes.

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Labradoraki
02.16.2012 , 10:18 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by WNxAres View Post
I'm a vanguard, which is the republic equivalent to the PT and I do great damage. I'm in all champion dps gear (besides boots, and earpiece I believe) and I'm not too squishy and I'm not too absorbent. I have around 15.5k health and if you hit your cooldowns (relics/+crit power you get) you can easily knock someone to half, even lower, health.
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this feels sad.... powertechs are that bad that people believe knocking someone off with full cooldowns to 50% of health is a good thing.... sorry but this proves the crappiness of PT, the goal is to reach 0% as fast as possible and not 50%....

also being top 3 damage is crap as well.... only top 1 is good... but like i said, pts live in another reality to think they are good instead of thinking logically and seeing how weak their dps are compared to other classes and that their tank is useless if not tank specced or focused fire

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Hoopi
02.16.2012 , 10:18 AM | #19
I'm afraid I have to agree with the other replies in this thread. Playing a valor 63 powertech (25/14/2) in nearly full BM/rakata, I find there aren't many classes I cant beat in a 1v1 situation. Perhaps its a gear issue?
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JediDuckling
02.16.2012 , 10:20 AM | #20
if your speccing into tank and useing tank gear do not expect to do high damage.

you are tanks that take ages to take down the balance is tanks are not suppose to have high dps.

to have good defense is to have low damage
to have good damage is to have low defense



you cant have both or the class will become OP and will need fixing.


its realy a learn to play issue tanks are amazing in warzones.