The reason Sorcerer/Sage CC is OP in PvP

But you do. *looks few posts back*

Although hs numbers actually come from someone playing high end pvp (and i can confirm they are accurate for BM/Rakata gear+ full rakata biochem line (pre-nerf) and columi/champion relics mix on champion+ geared opponents) yours are just imagined without any backup.

We have. Never played a more faceroll class in my life, that was at the same time OP as hell. The only class easier is commando/merc and they have nowhere near the utility, uptime. The hybrid spec is just asinine.

Why didn't most of us roll it in live? Most thought it would be nerfed to the ground long before this.

Instead they nerfed it's counter to the ground which shows the bias and ignorance of the development team.

I can only conclude they

a) all play empire and have never faced a team made up of mostly hybrid sorcs/sages.
b) were HORRIBLE casters in WoW (they have said they all played it) and balanced this game around complete and total bias.
c) don't play a melee class without premades against republic pugs and therefore have a completely skewed view.

How about you roll a melee class on a pvp server there champ. Roll republic. Have fun playing against all sages/mercs. Tell me how balanced you think the game is when you have to play infinitely better to top dps compared to facerolling on your sorc/sage.

Come back here with your results...

Concerning mobility:
I have three instant heals:
1. Hammer Shot. I cannot use this one on myself, and hardly on others in pvp (because of the "Look. I am a healer. Here I stand. Please focus me now!" message it sends, which isn't worth the effort for 250-300 ticks)
2. Bacta Infusion
Really good spell, don't know of a better single target heal. Crits for something around 2.5 k. Instant, no resources. Quite a cd, though, 18secs.
3. Kolto Bomb
Low cd, target AE for up to 3 targets, heals 750-900, crits 1200-1400, improves healing received for target, with supercharge cells 10% mitigation for quite some time (rare).

No speed up, no jump, no rescue.
If someone targets me, I can stand quite some time. But I will never ever get away, when not in huttball, where i can bump them off from up high, jump into boxes or use air vents to escape. Dedicated people hunt me and kill me. My best bet is to bubble when resolve is full, heal me up with my cast time spells, then find help. Or to run away and hope they get bored or find a "better" target.

So it is not that I think Commando is a bad healer.
I am just under the expression that, when it comes to healing, the sorc heals better.
Plus has more utility to actually win games with great skills (Voidstar sprints, Huttball rescues).
Plus isn't much easier to take down than I am, although I have a slight advantage there.

Yes and the talent is 12 points deep into the healing tree.....is this another 31/31/31 sorc?

Warning Oxygen thieves operate in this area.

If you're still making stuff up here because someone else is making stuff up here, stop it. I do think Backlash is quite bugged. I won't even spec it now that I know it's throwing blinds for every bubble, don't want it robbing me of a my other CC. =P

this thread is so full of BS and misinformation 1940 called and want to use it to confuse the germans.

I've been up all night working on a research paper and I can't really think straight at this point lol.. my brain turned off about an hour ago. You're right though they don't have mobility like melee if you're talking about doing damage on the move but they do have the best mobility in terms of speed and their ability to kite is the best in the game. Their utility is hands down the best in the game as well. Durability I'd say they're about middle of the pack at worst with bubble. Overall they're a strong class with no real weakness as Aidank mentioned earlier.

I still don't think anything in particular is overpowered except the CC capability though. That's part of their toolkit is what pushes them way over the top if they choose to spec into everything. Everything else, while strong, seems manageable.

Not sure if joke. Did not find funny.

Good luck going from 50 -60 valor in 12 hours. I have no idea how you play your sorc, but if it's higher valor ranked then your other chars of course you will do better on it, because you have played it more, duh.

That you perceive that you do better on your sorc does not make sorc op, equally you could just be crap with other classes. Point is you clearly don't understand how long it takes from 50-60, so your credibility just went down another notch.

If you play other battle masters , the same gear level as yourself you will realise sorc and sage are not the op class you think they are. You don't, so therefore your not in a position to talk about balance - you could have a sub par spec or sub par gear for all anyone else knows.

So there you go.

Almost every class in TOR is faceroll....so i can only assume you dont play TOR at all, go troll somewhere else.