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blowmedown
02.15.2012 , 06:21 PM | #681
Quote: Originally Posted by Odincore View Post
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I approve of this message except get the i5 2500K for $160 less and get a 2GB 6950 / 6870 GPU with the savings.

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blowmedown
02.15.2012 , 06:33 PM | #682
Quote: Originally Posted by Odincore View Post
I recently built a whole new computer just to play swtor. And for this build I got a nice 64gig SATA III SSD to run the OS\Swtor\Important Programs. As my slave I have a 250gig SATA II.

I was very excited when my new machine hit 17 seconds from dead to desktop. But my happyness was shattered when I got Swtor installed and Reved it up only to still wait forever on a load screen at login. I saw a much better time going planet to planet. I have tripled checked that all my files are on the SSD and not on the HDD.

I run a 12meg connection that averages around 12.3meg 60-70 MS with no drops or slowdowns.

I tried several things thinking maybe something was wrong...but it wouldn't explain the better P To P load time. I ended up blaming bio for slow servers.

So my question is anyone else have an SSD and still have horrid login times?
I run 3 x 64 GB SSD's in raid5 wich = 2 in raid0 with a backup and i get about a 12 sec boot from dead to ready and yes makes really no differance in SWTOR.

i5 2500K @ 4.2GHz
8GB memory
Gigabyte Z68
6970 @950/1425
3x 64GB SSD's raid5
2x CB 1TB HDD's raid1

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Odincore
02.15.2012 , 08:11 PM | #683
Quote: Originally Posted by blowmedown View Post
I run 3 x 64 GB SSD's in raid5 wich = 2 in raid0 with a backup and i get about a 12 sec boot from dead to ready and yes makes really no differance in SWTOR.

i5 2500K @ 4.2GHz
8GB memory
Gigabyte Z68
6970 @950/1425
3x 64GB SSD's raid5
2x CB 1TB HDD's raid1
Thank you for the confirmation.
Quote: Originally Posted by John Riccitiello
When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging.

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Zadtro
02.16.2012 , 05:04 AM | #684
Quote: Originally Posted by blowmedown View Post
Overkill in some areas and needs more in others. I think your in the UK? if so put up a link to where you buy parts or is this a prebuilt system?
Thankyou for others input as well, i will make adjustments tonight then get back.

Yes i am in uk, made the build at pc specialists. What would you suggest changing? =]

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/comput...ndy-bridge-pc/

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Zadtro
02.16.2012 , 08:26 PM | #685
Quote: Originally Posted by Odincore View Post
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I have made a new build, stuck with power supple because i dont think i will be upgrading that much and when i put it in on the website it said it had calculated 479W


Intel® Core™i7-2700k Quad Core (3.50GHz, 8MB Cache) + HD Graphics
Motherboard: ASUS® P8Z68-V LX: USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI®CrossFireX
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (4 x 4GB KIT)
1GB AMD RADEON™ HD6870 - 2 DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
1TB WD CAVIAR GREEN WD10EARX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan
COOLIT ECO II A.L.C ADVANCED LIQUID COOLER
Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry 2 Fan Controller with upto 5 Fitted Case Fans
Sound Card: ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps PCI-E CARD
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Monitor: IIYAMA E2473HDS 24" LED WIDESCREEN, 2 HDMI/DVI-D 1920x1080
DVI-D & HDMI Monitor Cables: 1 x 2 METRE GOLD PLATED V1.4 HDMI CABLE

Thankyou for, help if this build turns out too much then i may need to down grade but hopefully not =]

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Odincore
02.17.2012 , 08:10 AM | #686
Quote: Originally Posted by Zadtro View Post
I have made a new build, stuck with power supple because i dont think i will be upgrading that much and when i put it in on the website it said it had calculated 479W


Intel® Core™i7-2700k Quad Core (3.50GHz, 8MB Cache) + HD Graphics
Motherboard: ASUS® P8Z68-V LX: USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI®CrossFireX
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (4 x 4GB KIT)
1GB AMD RADEON™ HD6870 - 2 DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
1TB WD CAVIAR GREEN WD10EARX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan
COOLIT ECO II A.L.C ADVANCED LIQUID COOLER
Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry 2 Fan Controller with upto 5 Fitted Case Fans
Sound Card: ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps PCI-E CARD
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Monitor: IIYAMA E2473HDS 24" LED WIDESCREEN, 2 HDMI/DVI-D 1920x1080
DVI-D & HDMI Monitor Cables: 1 x 2 METRE GOLD PLATED V1.4 HDMI CABLE

Thankyou for, help if this build turns out too much then i may need to down grade but hopefully not =]

Looks good ^_^ i have nothing to add!
Quote: Originally Posted by John Riccitiello
When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging.

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Malastare
02.17.2012 , 08:28 AM | #687
Quote: Originally Posted by Zadtro View Post
Intel® Core™i7-2700k Quad Core (3.50GHz, 8MB Cache) + HD Graphics
I still can't justify the price for this. Unless you're doing video editing, you might as well save cash and get teh 2500K. They overclock to the same speed and hyperthreading doesn't really help games.

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16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (4 x 4GB KIT)
16GB is excessive, but I won't complain because I have the same amount. However, it's not worth moving from 1333 to 1600. There is just no noticeable difference.

Quote: Originally Posted by Zadtro View Post
600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan
I worry about PSUs that don't show their brands. 80Plus is no longer a guarantee of quality.

Quote: Originally Posted by Zadtro View Post
COOLIT ECO II A.L.C ADVANCED LIQUID COOLER
I guess people have their preferences, but liquid cooling just doesn't matter as much with Sandy Bridge chips and the newest generation of GPUs. I have a 2600K running at 4.5GHz on air cooling. It never breaks 60C and produces less than 28dB even under stress testing.

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Skeptical
02.17.2012 , 08:39 AM | #688
Any word on how The Old Republic will run on this system?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883155318

or this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883229300

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Odincore
02.17.2012 , 09:14 AM | #689
Quote: Originally Posted by Skeptical View Post
Any word on how The Old Republic will run on this system?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883155318

or this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883229300
In theory they should both run tor just fine, the custom non-dell though will run tor at high range graphical settings. as for the dell, id GUESS mid range on graphics, without physical testing.
Quote: Originally Posted by John Riccitiello
When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging.

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Malastare
02.17.2012 , 09:19 AM | #690
Quote: Originally Posted by Skeptical View Post
Any word on how The Old Republic will run on this system?
Neither one is great, but I recognize that I can be judgmental some times. I build my own systems, so I tend to have negative views of the cost-cutting measures that are used on some pre-builts.

I believe the current knowledge says that SWTOR is a CPU hungry game that loves RAM. Disk speeds don't matter so much and framerates are driven by CPU power as much as GPU power. Upgraded video cards mostly get you more pretty effects and extra consistency.

Quote: Originally Posted by Skeptical View Post
This is an i3 using integrated graphics. The game should be playable, but don't expect anything beyond medium settings and expect to have some slow loading of content. No matter what you do, you'll have some framerate drops in high population areas (Fleet) or areas with a lot of geometry within visible range (Taris). The memory is acceptable, so long as you don't play with a bunch of other apps running in the background.

There is little to no chance of upgrades, too, because of the 300W power supply (and you cannot easily replace DELL's power supplies).

Quote: Originally Posted by Skeptical View Post
The CPU on this is a little better, and Memory looks good. However, calling that video card a "gaming" video card is a bit dishonest. It is a low-end gaming card, and you're going to be playing at laptop-quality for graphics. Overall performance should be about the same or slightly better than the previous option.

Also --and this is my opinion, not fact-- I don't trust Cyberpower unless they list manufacturers of their components. I've seen too many of their products shipped with really low quality parts. I understand that for $600, they aren't going to be top-of-the-line, but in their history, they have used some components that I would suggest replacing immediately.