Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

With only 11k views on this thread it was already a forgone conclusion that minority's would be arguing with minority's.

But when even the other side for the most part readily admits that if the tool were introduced people would flock to it I think the point leans towards it's introduction.

If judging from here.

Given biowares flip flop from "not planning it" to "discussing it" tells me they have stats that have made them change there minds.

Since this thread is spiraling into grammar nazism and personal grudges anyway, why not?

If you need us to convince you why we shouldn't have an LFD tool, is it too much to ask why you wish to go to such extremes and need one?

When there are plenty of things that can be done before things turn so bad it's a requirement.

Nothing positive could come from such a thing, as you well know from playing WoW.

I played WoW and I disagree.

And that's not a knock on WoW or SWToR, they're not the problem. The problem is the players themselves.

Then it's safe to say that people that play MMOs in general are ninja jerks.

An LFD tool would be a great addition if it was used responsibly by rational adults but unfortunately, we're saddled with the exact opposite thus rendering any potential benefits moot.

This is pure opinion on your part.

Its not that I have no faith in the devs to create a workable tool, I don't have any faith that the players will use it in a way that's not totally degenerated over time.

Or any other system implemented. Why even give them games to play at all then?

They'll always say "not planning it" at launch to prevent their focus from being diverted to areas of less need. Now that things are settling down a bit, they're softening their stance. At this point, everything other than bug fixing, character xfers, UI customization and new content additions is announced as "we're discussing it."

That's like the people who were furious at launch that the game didn't have everything other games had because they hitched their wagons to a single line in a 2½ year old press release. "At the same time, we will still deliver all the fun features and activities that fans have come to expect in a AAA massively multiplayer online game."

Nothing positive could come from such a thing, as you well know from playing WoW.

And that's not a knock on WoW or SWToR, they're not the problem. The problem is the players themselves.

An LFD tool would be a great addition if it was used responsibly by rational adults but unfortunately, we're saddled with the exact opposite thus rendering any potential benefits moot.

Its not that I have no faith in the devs to create a workable tool, I don't have any faith that the players will use it in a way that's not totally degenerated over time.

So my experiences are now speculation?

I KNOW what happened to WoW after LFD, many people have said it to you. Several times. Very clearly, too. But you guys seem to just disregard it without giving it a thought at all.

Since this thread is spiraling into grammar nazism and personal grudges anyway, why not? If you need us to convince you why we shouldn't have an LFD tool, is it too much to ask why you wish to go to such extremes and need one? When there are plenty of things that can be done before things turn so bad it's a requirement.

Most people would probably take free end game gear too. But even if my counter point were true, simply stating that "people would flock to it" does not make it good. Which is a little funny since none of the pro LFD arguments "show" or "prove" anything either.

Most people would probably take free end game gear too. But even if my counter point were true, simply stating that "people would flock to it" does not make it good. Which is a little funny since none of the pro LFD arguments "show" or "prove" anything either.

So my experiences are now speculation?

I KNOW what happened to WoW after LFD, many people have said it to you. Several times. Very clearly, too. But you guys seem to just disregard it without giving it a thought at all.

This hit the nail on the head!

And it's not a case of a few honestly want it because they can't get a group (In that case, I do feel sorry for you), BUT, it will be abused & the rest will suffer if they end up using it (which they will, because of no other choice/peer pressure) and a few bad apples will destroy another MMO.