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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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darkcerb
02.15.2012 , 04:54 PM | #941
Quote: Originally Posted by Taroen View Post
Dude your posts are the picture of maturity... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG...

How you can even bother trying to preen yourself as overly mature after some of the insanely childish posts you've made is beyond me.

The bottom line is this... You were wrong. People in this thread have already said that the grouping was not what they were after. Those people want cross-server random even if no one has trouble getting groups.

And I would never support cross-server OR random for many reasons that I have laid out several times.
Right back at you.

And you have yet to lay out any reasons, can you stop with the inflamatory posts? and start with logical ones? that's be a nice change of pace from the norm for you.

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Senatsu
02.15.2012 , 04:54 PM | #942
Quote: Originally Posted by harpuax View Post
So what about this?

Step 1) Set yourself as LFG for whatever (heroics, FPS etc) and state your role and class (well the UI can just show your class).

Step 2a) Look at the list and pick people and invite them. Can send them tells before hand if you like.
or
Step 2b) Hit the random button and get 3 random people.

Step 3) kill stuff.

Note: A check box to show just your server or all servers on the list.

This seems to have options for everyone, yes?
Figured I'd bump this in again as it was completely ignored. I didn't like the cross-server thing, but the rest was a very good suggestion to such a system.

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Taroen
02.15.2012 , 04:55 PM | #943
Quote: Originally Posted by PjPablo View Post
I thought you were going to run some FPs? Oh wait...you are probably alt-tabbing while you spam general for a group. Keep trying!!! You'll get one eventually.
Actually, I got sucked back into the forums... lol..

I hate to admit that, but it's true. *sigh*

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harpuax
02.15.2012 , 04:56 PM | #944
Quote: Originally Posted by Senatsu View Post
Figured I'd bump this in again as it was completely ignored.
Thanks, seems people would rather bicker over the problems than present solutions.

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darkcerb
02.15.2012 , 04:57 PM | #945
Quote: Originally Posted by Kyrandis View Post
Remove player reputation! Brilliant play Watson!

In a perfect socialist world where everyone is optimistic and fights for each other it would be great.

Unfortunately..this thing...human nature.

See the thing of it is this, the server community acts as a sort of police. It causes people like me to play nice. Because knowing that if I act like a douche-bag, someone is going to go rampant in General. This would make my guild look back as a whole, myself as well, and make it difficult getting a group. In all the dungeons I did in wow, I never once saw the same person more than twice. Even if I did, they didn't remember it and neither did I.

It also causes more leaving, and RAGE AT GROUP then leave. Even with a 15 minute deserter people will leave. I never had a problem with this until I q'd with my friend who was a bad healer. And you would be correct if you guessed how many well geared tanks quit because he couldn't keep up the heals.
Except the answer to your problems is in the cards, and your failing to see the other side.

How bad was your friend? was it possible to complete the run? If not how shocked can you really be when people leave and do you actually expect same server people not to bail in such a case?

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Taroen
02.15.2012 , 04:57 PM | #946
Quote: Originally Posted by darkcerb View Post
Right back at you.

And you have yet to lay out any reasons, can you stop with the inflamatory posts? and start with logical ones? that's be a nice change of pace from the norm for you.
You're projecting here.

I've laid out many reasons. You just keep ingoring them so you can knock down the strawman arguments that you created in your head.

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MalignX
02.15.2012 , 04:57 PM | #947
All this ranting about LFG.

1) It's coming. Accept that.
2) They've already stated they're looking into Cross-Server. So it's not like there is absolutely no chance of it being implemented. That's delusional.

So instead of ranting that they should never allow Cross-Server. How about discussing how it could be more appealing to everyone. The whole "I don't like it" doesn't work. The "it's the sole cause of gaming nerfing" or "it directly destroys community" are tired as well. So unless you can add something constructive to the discussion, besides that you hate it and it's a gamekillingdoomsdaydevice, why even bother posting? All of you people that love the game now and have no problem finding groups sure spend a lot of time here on the forums. Which is strange to me, only in the sense that I didn't even bother looking at the forums until I ran into the godawful wall of Spamming LFG for Hours, just to run Flash Points. When LFG comes, I'll disappear back into the game.

And really, since no one here has any direct effect on what is or isn't going to happen, what's with all the hate? I'm as big a #$%hole as the next guy and it even mystifies me.

Do I want a Cross-Server LFG tool? Sure do. Am I interested in a compromise that does not include it in anyway shape or form? Absolutely not. So anything arguing against it is just going to fall on deaf ears. But, if you want to offer productive solutions, without resorting to "It's for lazy, casual, bads, gimmes, whatevers", awesome lets hear it. Otherwise we can play this stonewall, fingers in our ears game too.

Edit: If you have already offered productive ideas, sorry I missed them amongst all the ragevomit.
Just because I do not care, does not mean I do not understand.

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Senatsu
02.15.2012 , 04:59 PM | #948
Quote: Originally Posted by harpuax View Post
Thanks, seems people would rather bicker over the problems than present solutions.
Yeah, I have a feeling that is the entire purpose of this thread at this point. Argue just for the sake of arguing.

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ferroz
02.15.2012 , 04:59 PM | #949
Quote: Originally Posted by Taroen View Post
The fallacy in your arguments is all of the personal assumptions that you make.
Pot. Kettle. Black.

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I once had to patiently explain to a Druid in WoW (which was my main class) why it was not a good thing to queue as a healer in tank spec/gear. That's stupid that you just can't fix with a baseball bat.
I did something like that once. I wound up on his friends list, and wound up inviting him to raids (he turnout to be a pretty good tank).


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But... As we have witnessed here, some people will not support such a tool, even if it gets them groups, because the groups aren't really what they want. And I take criticism for saying that some people want an "IWIN" button..?
Yes, you catch flack for that... because that's not what people are asking for.

I don't want an I win button.

I want to be able to do random pugs, because I like doing random pugs. I've done them since EQ. I especially liked being able to drag people through content they never though they could do. One of the perks of being a top-notch puller/CC (bard) in that game.

I want a full suite of cross server tools; I want to be able to play with random people and add them to my friends list. I want to be able to run flashpoints with friends (both RL and in game) who play on other servers. I want the battletag system that blizzard is working on as a start, with new, innovative features piled on top.

So your non-random same server grouping method doesn't meet what I'd prefer...

EDIT: I notice you're not even pretending to defend your "LFFP = nerfed content" point... I'll take that as an admission that you concede that this isn't the case.

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darkcerb
02.15.2012 , 04:59 PM | #950
Quote: Originally Posted by harpuax View Post
Thanks, seems people would rather bicker over the problems than present solutions.
cross server is a solution.

cross server with an option to search just your own is a solution.

Apparently putting forward solutions doesn't end the debate, turns out all we can do is argue for our own and wait and see which bioware goes with.