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GellonSW
02.15.2012 , 01:15 PM | #61
Basically what it comes down to is that certain players here who are against the idea still want color to represent their status in the game when based on lore it never was or anything close to that. The STAT itself should be the reward for effort. The color of a crystal is no different than me putting on a pair of level 11 orange pants slotted with level 22 mods I craft.

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Greyfeld
02.15.2012 , 01:36 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Iskareot View Post
See in short this goes back to the "HOLDING SOMEONE TO WHAT THEY CHOOSE" type mindset too.

You got a choice... Orange with your stat... or Purple with a stat you don't need so much"..

Much like... this is the path you choose... light or dark... or AC... type thing.

Crafting wise... it would be a HUGE loss as far as what you could make or STRIVE TO as far as that goes as well.
Optimization and aesthetics should never be tied together. The fact that you have to choose one or the other is a ridiculous notion that should have been tossed out the window in beta.
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illgot
02.15.2012 , 01:38 PM | #63
I'm all for this.

If bioware does this they can sell colour crystals in micro-transactions and make the rest of us happy by allowing us to collect them in game.

Bio doesn't even have to change the current crystals, just allow us to have a "crystal case" in which to put the current crystals in before we put them in our weapons.

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BinxDarkstar
02.15.2012 , 01:48 PM | #64
I dunno how feasible it is, now. But I definitely agree this should have been an option from the start. Anywhere else in SW canon, the color crystal doesn't do anything but make the color, and there's a second (and sometimes third) crystal used for focusing and achieving specific results. That being said, my biggest gripe has been with how difficult it is to get them. If all the colors (except maybe the black/color) were available to EVERYONE, whether as cheap little "changes color but does nothing else" items or as something you can learn from an artifice trainer, it would make the game better. I dunno about everyone else, but the most annoying thing to me, aesthetically, had been color crystal restrictions. If I want a purple lightsaber, why shouldn't I be able to just go hunt down the crystals like you could in KotOR?

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MillionsKNives
02.15.2012 , 02:23 PM | #65
Another option is instead of adding new types of crystals or removing stats, is just to add leveled versions of each crystal, or at the very least a version of each color with the max stats. Maybe the super rare ones remain only available from one way, but they all have those max stats you want. Then we also could have craftable or lootable versions of the regular colors as well that have the stats you want.

You can ask an Artifice to craft you that max stat Green, or go hunt down the Purple drop. Either way you get the stats you need, it still offers variety in acquisition, and allows you to get the color you want.

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Redundant
02.15.2012 , 03:43 PM | #66
Some really good discussion here Also interesting to see the other side as well. Keep it coming
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Rayvales
02.15.2012 , 03:47 PM | #67
i support the sugestion for a color and a mod :P why should we have to keep changing the color? i would love to be able to have a blue lightsaber all the time
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Iskareot
02.15.2012 , 03:47 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Greyfeld View Post
Optimization and aesthetics should never be tied together. The fact that you have to choose one or the other is a ridiculous notion that should have been tossed out the window in beta.
Ahh ok so with this said...... using this to the next level..

I should be able to be anything in the game I want with just a click choice of a button and no effort made.. wait, etc..

I want to be the strongest Warrior in the game with a White saber then after I click.

But I'm a Si/*** tank.. so darn...


SOOO YOU want it to stop where it is good for you but not for me? Ahh I see how it is... right because holding people to choices they made is a bad thing.. right I forgot.

There is NO point in having any goals or efforts or items in game as a goal then.

I.e. this goes back to the great DATACRON debate from beta.. people didn't want stats on them because they felt it was not fair.

Ok.. so the logic in this is flawed... You want things to NOT be tied to aesthetics in game but stats are ok?

Ok so You can look and be anything but the stats should be separate?

Oh man... huge door open with that one... you want a saber color... well if that is the case we should scrap everything that has a look and make it all versatile right? Sabers down...?

I mean goose -- gander right?
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Meiu
02.15.2012 , 03:55 PM | #69
Change current color crystals into focusing lenses for stats. Add a shift+click toggle window with different colors you can set it up as. Problem solved. If they want to be lame and have tons of rare colors for people who have more time to play then just lock the spectrum in the slider menu until you do something to unlock its use.

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Meiu
02.15.2012 , 03:59 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Iskareot View Post
Ahh ok so with this said...... using this to the next level..

I should be able to be anything in the game I want with just a click choice of a button and no effort made.. wait, etc..

I want to be the strongest Warrior in the game with a White saber then after I click.

But I'm a Si/*** tank.. so darn...


SOOO YOU want it to stop where it is good for you but not for me? Ahh I see how it is... right because holding people to choices they made is a bad thing.. right I forgot.

There is NO point in having any goals or efforts or items in game as a goal then.

I.e. this goes back to the great DATACRON debate from beta.. people didn't want stats on them because they felt it was not fair.

Ok.. so the logic in this is flawed... You want things to NOT be tied to aesthetics in game but stats are ok?

Ok so You can look and be anything but the stats should be separate?

Oh man... huge door open with that one... you want a saber color... well if that is the case we should scrap everything that has a look and make it all versatile right? Sabers down...?

I mean goose -- gander right?
You keep confusing the use of the word logic in your post with what it should be. Opinion. This "logic is flawed" has no basis to be said other than you have a differing opinion. If the logic is flawed you should either cite your sources for the type of logical fallacy it is or at least proclaim what it is so others can double check.
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