Ok so It's offical. BM Bags are broken. My next question is.....

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Ok so It's offical. BM Bags are broken. My next question is.....

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Manigma

02.15.2012 , 12:45 PM \| #121
Quote: Originally Posted by thrashpower maybe they just saved up a lot of bags before they hit rank 60? you can't save up more than 4, once you have 4 pending pvp quests you can't travel anywhere and it doesn't let you turn in more pvp quests.

solnar_xan

02.15.2012 , 12:46 PM \| #122
Quote: Originally Posted by icecoldone Wow will you please stop acting like i haven't stated this before. There are more ways of generating random numbers than seeding. Which is why i haven't focused on accusing seeding of the problem. It is true you have to seed the number generator when your taught how to do so in basic education level however there are multiple of algorthims they could be using. I am not bold enough to claim to know how they are generating this. I just know it's not random. I am only on these forums because i want to talk about this subject because now i am no longer playing my main. I have offically dropped it until they fix it cos my "PROGRESSION" has stopped FYI; I've been a computer programmer for 16 years. All you did there is prove that you are not willing to listen to reason.

thrashpower

02.15.2012 , 12:47 PM \| #123
Quote: Originally Posted by Manigma you can't save up more than 4, once you have 4 pending pvp quests you can't travel anywhere and it doesn't let you turn in more pvp quests. didn't know there was a cap, guess its not that then.

avezes

02.15.2012 , 12:47 PM \| #124
People arent defending the RNG, Bioware or anything of the sort.They are defending themselves because they do not want to feel they got something that they did not deserve. I am not saying that they did or did not deserve it, but NOBODY gets this upset over something they hold no personal interest in. BTW if you think bags are an issue,how about trading kills. Maybe part of the problem is that Bioware didnt count on ths many BMs to be hitting that database for a long time; buit thanks to people trading kills, not there are tons of BMs all after a limited supply of tokens

Reject-Code

02.15.2012 , 12:47 PM \| #125
Quote: Originally Posted by icecoldone Which Means ladies and gentlemen IT IS NOT RNG Further clarification IT IS NOT RANDOM!!!!!!! For the 20th time. It's NOT RANDOM But it is random and it need not be a biased number generator to produce an unfair outcome. Note the difference in unfair (what you are seeing) and biased. Let's say we flip an unbiased coin (50% chance to land on heads or tails) ten times each. There are 2^10 different outcomes (including the order of the flip) and each outcome has the same probability (0.5^10). The outcome you get may not seem fair to you (same number of flips as me) but it is random and it is unbiased. Sample outcomes: H, H, T, T, T, T, T, T, T, H T, H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H If we let H be a piece of gear you want then in the first outcome you would only get three pieces, however in the second outcome you get nine. Let's say you currently have the first outcome and I have the second. You have the same number of tries as me, yet you got six less pieces of gear. You are fully allowed to say this is unfair since we put in the same amount of effort, however you are not allowed to say this is not random; it is, stop trolling.
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icecoldone

02.15.2012 , 12:57 PM \| #126
Quote: Originally Posted by solnar_xan FYI; I've been a computer programmer for 16 years. All you did there is prove that you are not willing to listen to reason. I have been working with computers for 27 years I did engneering for 4 years I have been programming for 10 years. 2 extra if you include my youth days What have you just proven.. Nothing

icecoldone

02.15.2012 , 12:58 PM \| #127
Quote: Originally Posted by Reject-Code But it is random and it need not be a biased number generator to produce an unfair outcome. Note the difference in unfair (what you are seeing) and biased. Let's say we flip an unbiased coin (50% chance to land on heads or tails) ten times each. There are 2^10 different outcomes (including the order of the flip) and each outcome has the same probability (0.5^10). The outcome you get may not seem fair to you (same number of flips as me) but it is random and it is unbiased. Sample outcomes: H, H, T, T, T, T, T, T, T, H T, H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H, H If we let H be a piece of gear you want then in the first outcome you would only get three pieces, however in the second outcome you get nine. Let's say you currently have the first outcome and I have the second. You have the same number of tries as me, yet you got six less pieces of gear. You are fully allowed to say this is unfair since we put in the same amount of effort, however you are not allowed to say this is not random; it is, stop trolling. /sigh Biased random is still random excellent

Delavager

02.15.2012 , 12:58 PM \| #128
I think you are confusing "RANDOM" and "FAIR". It is very RANDOM as there is not a set way to repeat the same steps are arrive at the same outcome. That is the definition of RANDOM. Unless you can definitively create the same outcome by following the same steps, then it is still RANDOM. Because it works for some and not for others is still RANDOM, just might not be fair. As we are not sure what is causing the issue, there is no way to tell what is going on. Your definition of broken is also wrong. A) They didn't say it was broken. B) Broken just means not working as intended. Broken doesn't mean your specific scenario which you made out of thin air. Thus again this is all really pointless. What exactly are you hoping for out of this thread? What is your end result that you hope to achieve?
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solnar_xan

02.15.2012 , 01:00 PM \| #129
Quote: Originally Posted by icecoldone I have been working with computers for 27 years I did engneering for 4 years I have been programming for 10 years. 2 extra if you include my youth days What have you just proven.. Nothing This is an obvious lie, your behavior and grammar clearly disprove this.

icecoldone

02.15.2012 , 01:01 PM \| #130
Quote: Originally Posted by Delavager What exactly are you hoping for out of this thread? What is your end result that you hope to achieve? excellent. why don't you go and ask the same question to every single person that decides he wants to post a thread. confusing fair and random??? How. there are people just not getting anything. How is that fair or random.

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