The reason Sorcerer/Sage CC is OP in PvP

So what you are trying to tell us is that 8 sorcs would not be able to beat 5 sentinels?

I have 10+ years of MMO PVP experience.

I can beat mediocre sages no worries, but with the scoundrel Im the rock to the scissor.

I honestly dont see the Scoundrel as the rock teh toe srco scissor. Sure if you get a jump on them and can stun lock the ma little they are toast, if not the sorc gets some distance using force speed, slows you and goes to town as you have no gap closer. But this is a problem with the scoundrel not a problem with the sorc being OP.

For PVE, you need a tank. For PVP, you just need a full team of sorcs.

Intimidating Roar - Untalented 6 second AOE stun/mes
Not a stun. Stuns don't break on dmg. Fail.

Force Choke 3 second stun
Again not a stun. A channeled CC that can be interupted. Fail 2.

Predation 10 second run speed increase for a group
And sage/sorc throws instant heals on people (shields that can't be dispelled), can cleanse CC off people, and is the only offhealer in the game with the endless freakin force/procs as hybrid spec to effectively be able to offheal. If you use predation you aren't using your dmg zen ability. Which means less dmg for you. Utility comes at a huge cost.

Deadly Throw reduces healing to the target
Yeah a 20 percent mortal strike when expertise increases healing done by 15 percent...Compare this to mortal strikes in other games. Add to this the dmg on it is garbage, it costs a resource and with expertise it is 5 percent less healing. OMG!

Disruption interrupt
Sage/sorc has an interupt. What is your point? Yours is ranged.

Crippling Slash 50% slow for 12 seconds
You have a slow that is ranged. Along with that the button you are pressing 80 percent of the time autokites.

Cloak of Pain shield/reflect damage all in one.
Lasts 6 seconds unless people are stupid enough to hit you. Try using a CC on a marauder/sent that has it up. When it ends? They are the softest target in the game.

Saber Ward - reduces melee and tech defenses by 50% and reduces all force damage by 25% for 12 seconds, MUCH better then our shield which will last about 3 seconds for a static amount.
Most fail comparison ever. 3 min cooldown vs shield which can be casted twice in any pvp encounter, can be given to other people. Fail 3.

Force Charge- built in jump to target with an 2 second imobilize and interupt, giveing you a 30m itnerupt.
Yeah we use our charge only for interupts...not to get back to the target or anything...Cus you know there aren't a ton of knockbacks, stuns, slows and roots in this game. Fail 4.

A hybrid sage/sorc brings more CC (stuns are the best CC in the game and yours is ranged), has more survival in a group settings, does equal dmg to a pure dps spec, can throw instant heals (shields which can't be dispelled) on other players, can dispel CC off players, and is a stupidly easy to play class who has to worry less about resources and managing them then any class in the game.

There are what? 200 "good" sages/sorcs on every realm? And 5 marauders/sents combined? LOL. I am sure it is cus all the good players rolled sorcs right? Oh wait...many of us beta tested sorc, reported the hybrid spec as OP, too simple to play and simply no fun. We also said the resolve system sucked, ranged stuns was a horrid idea and that people would just stack ranged stuns and sorcs up the wazoo.

Like I said feel free to roll a sent/marauder. Just because other people can lead dmg on them? Doesn't mean you will do half the dmg you do on a faceroll class that is the most stupidly OP ranged class ever seen in an MMO.

About the only class/spec that half the people in this thread could even approach the dmg they do on their sage/sorc is a commando/merc that has nowhere near the utility, sucks at off healing and has a cast time on their CC (not the stun). They are also completely screwed by interupts and line of site because they have no passive dmg.

But whatever. Please roll a marauder. I love clownstomping kids on my sentinel who can't break 100 k on a melee class. Funny thing? I bet some of them are as good or better then you at the game. They just didn't roll one of the two faceroll classes. Don't worry they got the memo. See the 10-49 brackets as proof. Out of the 10 games I played tonight. Half had ALL sages and commandos in them lol. Soon Republic will be as "skilled" as Empire.

If I am going to play a ranged class I will play WoW. At least I have to time things, my CC has cast times other then roots and those can be dispelled as soon as they are put on (no 6 second dispel timer).

Sorc/Sages are not fun, are not challenging and are simply too good when hybrid specced. The only class that comes close to them in this game as dps in a warzone is a extremely well played marauder/sent and I can do better on the sage/sorc then my sent/marauder which brings us to..

Why bother. As a sage/sorc I can sit back do more dmg, with an easier playstyle, throw out heals, dispel cc off teammates and not be kited/rooted/stunned/knockedback to the point it just isn't even fun. Yeah I can lead dmg on my sent/marauder and actually get to hit my target 3 out of every 10 seconds. Why am I leading dmg? Cus these kids can't even play an OP spec right, most are specced wrong, and most use about 1/3rd of their abilities but can be right under me in dmg lol.

They can balance the game, rework the resolve system or we will all go back to WoW when pandas hit. The game can be fixed and they need to start with the hybrid spec sorc/sage. It is the most glaring OP spec in this game with healing sorc right behind it.

A) not if speced into it
B) how can intsant spells be interupted, I would love to know.

You again with this nonsense.. I have already stated SEVERAL TIMES I forgot to move that one out of my list I was seperating.

I honestly dont see the Scoundrel as the rock to toh sorc scissors. Sure if you get a jump on them, crit alot and can stun lock them a little they are toast, if not the sorc gets some distance using force speed, slows you and goes to town as you have no gap closer. But this is a problem with the scoundrel not a problem with the sorc being OP.

a tip (it is not a guaranteed win strategy): don't waste your stuns to early. instead interrupt a sorcs/sages spam spell. if you do this he has nothing dangerous to swith to and no procs allowing long time cast spells being instant on the run.

interrupt is one of the most dangerous counters to a sorc/sage. don't hold it back for a heal or any long time casting. us it for their spammed spell!!!

edit: but i admit i have only few experiences with scoundrells. so only treat this as an idea. not more.

A good sentinel/mara will beat an equal geared sage/sorc all of the time. The only class I have real trouble with on my Sent are assassins.

I do have to say that Sorcs seems to be a tad over the top but I think this has more to do with how many people play them as opposed to them being OP as a class. 2-3 sorcs in a WZ gives that team a HUGE advantage over a team that has 1 or none.