The reason Sorcerer/Sage CC is OP in PvP

A hybrid is mobile. A mobile class does not need an AoE mezz like that. A mobile class doesn't need that on top of what they already have.

I think your exaggerating somewhat though mate. Sorc are deffo not the best at everything by an incredible margin. That is stretching your original argument considerably. They die fast if they are focused, cannot stealth, have pretty fair to middling dps, wear light armor, crap melee. The hybrid spec gives them an aoe nuke but most Sorc won't waste points on a shield that can Stun on break if they have any sense.
I originally thought your posts were well thought out but if you are gonna claim things like that then it makes me question the validity of your whole arguement.
Against crap geared people that spec is powerful, people in even gear won't let you chain cast or proc anything, they just stomp your face off.

My apologies. That was a bit of a sheer frustration post. Too many "L2P TROLOLOL" and "I t7p3 l1k3 th15" posts over the course of a week long thread that's had about 1300 posts(a lot of which I spent hours responding to). Not a single person has even tried to explain how a mezz as powerful as that is balanced. I can understand Electric Bindings maybe but an AoE mezz as powerful as that? Nothing in the game even comes close. I'm actually kind of skeptical as to whether it was even intended to work the way it does. A 4.5 second cooldown on AoE mezz if you have allies around you? 20 second cooldown but pre-castable so that you can have more than one trigger in a short timespan? How does that work out to be balanced exactly?

Pot meet kettle. Give it up man.

I pointed out obvious counters to those things. The problem is people cry nerf on anything that their class can't faceroll into the ground because they're bad, lazy, the paper to scissors, undergeared, poorly spec'd, or any other number of reasons. Melee toons have trouble dealing with CC because of their limited range. I get it. I am a JG. Yet, here I am....saying things are fine.

However, if all you're getting out of what I've said is what you posted; then you're pointless to reply to as you'll continue posting the above until I agree with you.

Actually they started with the lore crap first. I didn't even like the extended universe outside one series. But if they are going to use lore to prove their point? They may as well be right...

They derailed the thread. Nothing more needs to be said then...

1. Overpopulated class due to having an overpowered hybrid spec.

2. Being rerolled like crazy right now because people realize it (same thing happened in beta). Sage isn't immune this is a problem on both factions. Has nothing to do with lightning or story.

3. Other hybrid spec in the game that was considered by NOONE to be overpowered was nerfed and all other classes are balanced around going deep into talent trees which the Hybrid Sorc/sage spec does not do.

4. Spec needs to be non viable by moving talents around because this class was balanced around speccing deep into trees (just like all other specs). The suggestion I gave was move madness talent to 31 point talent in madness/balance which wouldn't touch specs that were BALANCED and had internal testing that validated them as balanced. You would lose no dps viability in pve or pvp. That isn't good enough though. You simply want to be OP.

The argument? Calling people bad. Presenting wrong lore. Talking smack when any good sorc or sage who tested or plays the spec now realizes it is OP and in no way balanced.

There is no argument here. The spec was not tested by Bioware/EA, people gave feedback that it was OP in beta and were flamed harassed by the exact same people in this thread.

Harassment ain't gonna work. Why? Numbers. Too many people are learning about the spec and playing it.

BTW hilarious to see the same people here that made a crusade out of calling for nerfs on ops/scoundrels, telling everyone that a hybrid spec which only a handfull of people played or attempted in beta is somehow balanced and that there is perfect game balance now that their counter has got the "to the ground" treatment.

Hypocrisy, stupidity and flaming people. Simply hilarious. Half the people in this thread don't even play the hybrid spec and are too dense to realize this wouldn't effect them whatsoever. They can still continue to faceroll as full balance...They just won't be stupidly OP.

This is what I've been saying all along. Well said.

Nerf misses-hawtpants!!!!

They're a melee class. They don't need an escape. Escapes are for ranged classes.

I know you miss her. Also, JGLOL. <3

You think the force is real, your arguement is invalid!