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Pros and Cons of Dual Advanced Classes

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Pros and Cons of Dual Advanced Classes

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Russkiier
02.15.2012 , 12:37 AM | #41
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Because you enjoy the playstyle or even look of the limited class or you don't like one of the combat roles at all. I don't understand why people are so intent on wanting people to play classes that they don't like or trying to alter someone's preferred playstyle or role. Also, I don't see why they're so determined with having more classes. If a class is underplayed, everyone who is for balanced class representation can make one if they're that resolute in their stance.
If you dont like the class you choose, roll an alt! or respec!

if you realize around level 25-30 that this class is not for you, it will likely take you only a month or two of casual gaming to get to that level again with a different class (or advanced class). If you stick with mechanics that you hate until 50 that is a YP not a DP. Just because you were too stubborn to realize that you dont like ranged casters until lvl 50 does not mean you should get to spec to a new class. I mean, if heal-spec sorc can spec to tank-spec assassin, arent juggernauts tanks too, so why can't i respec to juggernaut?

dont play something you dont like and expect people to pity you

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Reynnas
02.15.2012 , 12:40 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Russkiier View Post
Dual AC is something that should not happen. I am ambivalent about dual spec (within the advanced class), but the advanced classes are, in my experience, different playstyles
Class: Sith Inquisitor
AC: Sorceror
Role: Ranged Healer OR Ranged DPS
AC: Assassin
Role: Melee tank OR Melee DPS
I'm not trying to be a fanboy for any game here, but both WoW and Rift, the other leading MMOs, have all roles available within each class(Albeit it only some classes, even with some having both ranged and melee dps, and others only having pure DPS).

Quote: Originally Posted by xyloh View Post
For one... in the other MMO I played... Druids abused the fact that they could play multiple roles WAYYYYYY to much.

"Hey guys I wanna be a tank"

Next week: "Hey guys I'll heal if you need me too"

Next week: "Healing is boring, I'm going to DPS"

Next week: "Hey guys need me to tank again??"


Yeah... not interested in loot whores and spec swappers especially since respec is free once a week...
I agree that that is very obnoxious, but those people will probably end up leveling a ton of alts with different specs and no real gear rather than the same character with no real gear. Nor do you have to play with those peoples, as I also try to avoid playing with those kinds of people.

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Reynnas
02.15.2012 , 12:42 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Atrix View Post
Why is this still being discussed? It was shot down.

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Let's stop wasting time of the Devs and others on issues that are already dead.
Please read the bottom of the first post.

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Reynnas
02.15.2012 , 12:44 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Russkiier View Post
If you dont like the class you choose, roll an alt! or respec!

if you realize around level 25-30 that this class is not for you, it will likely take you only a month or two of casual gaming to get to that level again with a different class (or advanced class). If you stick with mechanics that you hate until 50 that is a YP not a DP. Just because you were too stubborn to realize that you dont like ranged casters until lvl 50 does not mean you should get to spec to a new class. I mean, if heal-spec sorc can spec to tank-spec assassin, arent juggernauts tanks too, so why can't i respec to juggernaut?

dont play something you dont like and expect people to pity you
The juggernaut has a different tanking playstyle than an assassin tank, although minor or major, I'm not sure. They also have different gear priorities and looks. I'm also not asking for pity, I'm merely suggesting/discussing reasons why I think the idea would be beneficial.

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xyloh
02.15.2012 , 12:50 AM | #45
I will commend the OP on responding to each "Naysayer" and being persistent...

But I actually enjoy the fact that no class/advanced class can swap between all 3 roles for the reasons I have already posted.

After all there are other MMO's that cater to those who wish to invest everything into one character and play all roles...
Mace Windu was not a Mutha****ing Sith... Now lemme put my crystal in my saber!!
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Emeda
02.15.2012 , 12:54 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Zachajariah View Post
They already said no AC respecs. Can we just move on?
Nope this is going to be brought up all the time until they get what they want. Bioware says no now but sooner or later they are going to give in because they always give in, even though it destroys the game in the process. But like Bioware these people dont care about the game itself but only what they get from it.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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Reynnas
02.15.2012 , 01:00 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by xyloh View Post
I will commend the OP on responding to each "Naysayer" and being persistent...

But I actually enjoy the fact that no class/advanced class can swap between all 3 roles for the reasons I have already posted.

After all there are other MMO's that cater to those who wish to invest everything into one character and play all roles...
I play a few other MMOs, but they don't have nearly as much story or character progression(story-wise), nor do they have the feel of epicness that you get from just you and your companion being the heroes. This is probably the most enjoyable out of the other MMOs that I play atm, and I'd like to be able to devote more of my time to this rather than others, but I just feel like I can't because my character is limited by an unneeded barrier(my opinion).

P.S. As I said, your other reasons are valid, but there are solutions to dealing with those types of people.

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Reynnas
02.15.2012 , 01:04 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
Nope this is going to be brought up all the time until they get what they want. Bioware says no now but sooner or later they are going to give in because they always give in, even though it destroys the game in the process. But like Bioware these people dont care about the game itself but only what they get from it.
I still don't understand how giving people an option breaks the game for everyone else when that person would otherwise miserably grind through the same content again or just not play that AC at all, limiting their experience and enjoyment of the game.

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CygnisJunior
02.15.2012 , 01:27 AM | #49
On one hand I don't want to go through my class's story line again

But on the other hand, advanced classes are really damn different.

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xyloh
02.15.2012 , 01:39 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Reynnas View Post
I play a few other MMOs, but they don't have nearly as much story or character progression(story-wise), nor do they have the feel of epicness that you get from just you and your companion being the heroes. This is probably the most enjoyable out of the other MMOs that I play atm, and I'd like to be able to devote more of my time to this rather than others, but I just feel like I can't because my character is limited by an unneeded barrier(my opinion).

P.S. As I said, your other reasons are valid, but there are solutions to dealing with those types of people.
If you truly enjoy the story line part... roll one of each and forget advanced classes... this actually hurts your argument imo


And as far as solutions to dealing with loot whores and spec swappers... dealing with those people are not worth opening up roles.
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