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The reason Sorcerer/Sage CC is OP in PvP

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The reason Sorcerer/Sage CC is OP in PvP

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WaystedMined
02.14.2012 , 09:48 PM | #61
Making the 20 second de-buff which prevents a target from being re-bubbled not begin the 20S CD until AFTER the bubble has been dropped or destroyed. It's irritating being chain bubble stunned by killing a sorc bubble that was about to drop and is immediately reapplied for two AOE stuns in the matter of a few seconds.

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Slemfiskz
02.14.2012 , 09:49 PM | #62
bioware nerfs or not, if they do would that even make people reroll again ?
we are stuck with a massive amount of sorceres whos gonna QQ all over this board if they get nerfed, hey what do i care, just as a common rule in any MMO, dont expect ur class to remain the same, and if u reroll cus someone is overpowered u are plain stupid cus its gonna change eventualy

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YMIHere
02.14.2012 , 09:49 PM | #63
Apparently I haven't been watching the front page for updates enough

Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri View Post
In addition to all of this if a Sorcerer casts a talented bubble on someone else they also get the ability to either trigger the bubble CC manually or let it trigger through damage.
I just tested this (hadn't heard of it before) and it actually works, but what it does is blind through me. I'm literally running around the fleet tab bubbling people with a 1.5 second pulsating light coming from me. Is this new to 1.1.3? I've never noticed this and it's kind of hard to miss. Silly me, I had to respec to test and I thought I'd try Corruption with Backlash. Now I get to respec again so I'm not "Pulsating Light Gort, the giver of Resolve." Right-click removal needs to go, and I don't think Backlash should go to every bubble I cast. It would make us ridiculous off healers.

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There is also the constant whining that "Sorcerers have no Burst". A Wrath Proc Chain Lightning can do up to 5k damage with just a relic popped. This can be followed up by Death Field and Shock for almost 10k damage in 3 GCDs. This is more burst damage(not to mention it's AoE) than most non-gimmick specced classes can output.
This I would like to see. I'm not the most geared sorc, but with Wrath, a power relic, and an expertise buff the highest Chain Lightning crit I've got was 3.2k. I'm not sure how the math works for damage so if someone can formulate it that will work. With Reckless I won't discount three crits in a row.
Gort - Sorc
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Lormif
02.14.2012 , 09:49 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by WaystedMined View Post
Making the 20 second de-buff which prevents a target from being re-bubbled not begin the 20S CD until AFTER the bubble has been dropped or destroyed. It's irritating being chain bubble stunned by killing a sorc bubble that was about to drop and is immediately reapplied for two AOE stuns in the matter of a few seconds.
that would make bubble near useless, may as well just give us better armor, or atleast add 50% to the absorption.

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WaystedMined
02.14.2012 , 09:51 PM | #65
It doesn't make your bubble useless. The CD on it is waaay too short for all the power being put into it through your ability upgrades in tree. Something has to go with it. So either kiss the CC good bye or length the time between re-apps, period.

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Lormif
02.14.2012 , 09:53 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by WaystedMined View Post
It doesn't make your bubble useless. The CD on it is waaay too short for all the power being put into it through your ability upgrades in tree. Something has to go with it. So either kiss the CC good bye or length the time between re-apps, period.
Ok useless is too strong, it has a use, but it would not fullfill that use, we would then be able to make up for the some of the hps of the heavy class, but not the armor reduction that we lose out on... so therefore it would not fullful its use.

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GeriMage
02.14.2012 , 09:53 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Aidank View Post
So they make a trilogy all about what is basically a jedi guardian, that follows a jedi guardian, and doesn't even have people throwing crap with the force until the relatively crappy second trilogy, and you're going to tell me that fans relate more to consulars than jedi guardians with no justification behind it?
Aidank maybe you should know star wars lore and not just from the films????

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Rallic
02.14.2012 , 09:54 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Aidank View Post
???

If you think star wars fans relate more to infinite force lightning from 8 people in a warzone more than jedi knights then I'm not sure what to tell you.
Your not this stupid , you can't be as you can turn on your computer.
Star wars fans are not the only players of this MMO . 99% of MMO have casters. He didt say sifi did he.


Sob why did I just feed the troll.

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GeriMage
02.14.2012 , 09:57 PM | #69
Sorcs being overpowered is just plain stupid... As an annihilation marauder if I meet a sorc one on one in a wz, I don't care what spec he uses, I kill him. That is a fact. Sure if they have a head start and can't lose los anyway possible (force camo btw) then yeah they kill me but other than that I usually kill them. They die fast, the bubble is easily destructible. Your reasoning seems flawed and it really seems like that you just doesn't know how to use your abilities and thus think that others are OP. Sure it's easier whining here on the forums than actually learning to play your class....

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bellok
02.14.2012 , 10:00 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Lormif View Post
you do realize it is already a channel right?
yes it is a channel, but the channel he is talking about, or at least I thought he was talking about is one where you channel first then it does the damage.....not the way it is where you are actually doing the attack at the same time channeling it.