The reason Sorcerers/Sages are OP in PvP

Dude what did i just tell you guys? You don't need a combat log. Can you do the following equation?

800 + 1500 + 1200 - 3200 = 300

Do you know what that was? That's a numerical representation of the initial fight between a Sorc and a juggernaut.

Smash hits for 800
Impale hits for 1.5k
Force Scream hit for 1.2k

The Sorc bubble dropped after scream and i saw that he only took 300 dmg after that entire attack sequence. We were both the same level and he didn't have any buffs on him save for the regular team ones. Through previous testing i know exactly how much my attacks are going to hit for against light - heavy armor types my level.

Simple mathematics. How are you gonna sit there and just call it perception/anecdotal evidence when I am looking at the screen and seeing actual numbers and their effect on my opponent and I.

Observation and implementation of Data from different resources is exactly how you can find what your dmg is. I see over and over again people saying "pvp isn't about 1vs1 so all data from that is flawed."

To that i say, "well sir how do you think i know the numbers i put up against different classes when they are buffed and unbuffed? Simple I duel them under all those conditions so when it's world pvp i can know EXACTLY what's going on."

My response is in Red.

So how about when the maurader uses Saber Ward, it has the potential to reduce way more damage then the bubble. Or what about the fact that difference in health between the 2 is about as much as the bubble, or the fact that they have less armor so therefore less base reduction..

There you go simple math that shows that the Maurader ability is infinitely better (because it scales) then the sorcs bubble.

Learn the difference between a instant cast stun and other CC that breaks on dmg or needs to be channeled. If a JK/SW is channeling on you? They aren't hitting you with melee (which does more dmg). It can also be interupted.

You then compare a 3 minute cooldown with a bubble that can be used twice in any one on one fight? LOL? Can we throw that bubble on other people (as a dps spec), which is the BEST instant heal in the game, because there are no offensive dispels in this game?

You didn't even know the difference between a juggernaut/guardian and a marauder/sent.

You list an interrupt? What does that have to do with anything. Are you a trooper/commando? No? Sage/sorc has a RANGED interupt, just like a RANGED stun and a ranged slow and your main dps spell autokites...

Add to this? A marauder/sent has to press a button for their automatic mez. Yours goes off automatically and off the global cooldown as a hybrid spec when your shield breaks...

I would say your whole post is invalid and among the worst posts I have ever seen on this forum. This is what happens when they make a class absolutely faceroll. Clueless people like you who don't even know one AC from another make clueless posts, because you finally found a MMO with a ranged class so dumbed down and OP as a hybrid spec, that even you can compete.

People that don't CC right, don't use their slow, never use their interrupt, never shield other people, never heal themselves, and don't even know what the hell is even going on with other classes in this game, can come close to leading dmg, due to automatic CC, a shield and a dps cycle that could be played with an original nintendo controller.

Thanks for proving the OP's point. Hybrid spec needs to go.

I've flagged this thread for moderators. Hopefully it is closed soon. Nothing new is being presented. No need for an endless flame war.

So now to avoid being disengenuous, show what happens when that sorc attacks the jugg with his guard/saber ward on

Nothing new is being presented. Except for the fact that a new argument pops up every few pages. The thread is extremely long and old arguments are restated at times but there's been new stuff as well.

If you don't want to read the thread then just don't read it.

And if we are running away, the major concern with this post, then we are not doing ANY damage.

Where do I compare any 2 abilities lol, learn to read.

Please explain? I let one ability slip in and then OMG I DONT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE?

you have a ranged interrupt as well..... Which also Immobilizes! I listed it because he listed ours.....

So you are actually going to claim that because I have 0 control over my mez it is somehow better then yours which you have 100% control over?

I would say this whole post of yours is invalid and amond the worst post because it is totally not even relevant to the conversation.

I dont see that happening........

Man lol Saber Ward is on A THREE MINUTE COOL DOWN. Chances are that if you are fighting a jugg or a marauder, it's on CD. I would trade it for the bubble in a heartbeat. Infinitely more useful, can be put on other players, and can be recast during a fight. So since it's up so little, mathematically speaking it is completely inferior.

When you can't argue FACTS, report to moderators.

Same thing happened in beta. I played a hybrid sorc/sage said it was OP as hell, got called bad when I gave feedback, responded to the "bads", showed them how wrong they were, showed them that I doubled their dmg with the same faceroll class and then?

Mass reports due to "dun nerf me brah" syndrome.

Report away lol. This forum is what 80 percent Sorcs/sages? If Bioware/EA can't see past the BS evident in this entire thread and balance their game? The game will fail anyways.

The 10-49 bracket is filled only with classes that have a ranged stun and ONLY sorc/sage healers and MOSTLY sorc/sage dps.

It is the most obvious thing in the world. Maybe when all these 10-49's get to 50 and you see just how dumb the resolve system is and how stupidly OP the hybrid spec is (when GOOD players reroll them)? You might see the truth.