Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

for sure. I was doing a lot of raid pugging in wotlk, and using that tool was worthless. The only way to be sure to get a raid spot was to sit in dalaran (or be in wintergrasp when we won)

Entirely disagree with that.

I've been playing WoW since launch and I can say with 100% certainty that I enjoy being able to quest, play the AH, chat with friends, or whatever else I fancy while I wait for a Random Dungeon Finder group to pop. Same goes for LFR (Looking For Raid).

The feature, for me, is an absolute success in that it saves me the headache of spamming trade chat (or general chat) for a group. Anyone else remember how hard it was to find a group for Magister's Terrace as a DPS when you weren't a mage? I do.

I've played for years and have fallen into every category of gamer at one point or another: newb, casual, PvPer, raider, hardcore raider, altaholic, you name it. A "Flash Point Finder" would be an excellent addition to SW:ToR. Sure you'll get the odd "troll" now and then, but the amount of time you'll save by having access to the FPF would, in my case at least, more than compensate for a "ninja'd" item or two.

May the Farce be with you

Sallana

PS: My current WoW incarnation can be found bellow

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...llana/advanced

You start a group in the LFG tool with a message ("LF2M Fire Temple. Need heals").
That message can then be broadcast in the LFG channel with clickable links.
Players can click on the message to see the current group composition/classes/levels.
Players can click to request access to the group.
The group leader can accept or deny the request.
The group is removed from LFG when filled.

And this is all server-wide.

It's a fantastic system.

it's not zone-only

all you need open tab…

claer zone-name…

type LFG…

get the list of players who search different stuff…

and browse it, read comment (if it exist) or whisper to ask what they LFG and what role are they…

simple

Getting fast groups comes at a price. A price all LFD adherents will hang on the devs to fix whose time would probably be better spent making a game that doesn't play like every other darn game on the market.

LOL. I missed the memo about typing LFG in the search box. I was typing the name of the flashpoint in the search box and thought that, plus having LFG checked, was enough to match them up. Oops... Thanks!

No Bioware we just want a LFG so we can play your game really, we dont want if for any other reason. Yeah right you used that line so many times in wow so only complate idiots would fall for it a 200th time.

fury warrior here

i feel you pain (=

in my case i don't even look, just no point trying
only one way: go to trainer, say hi to him and respec in prot

Ok, I understand it's the cool thing to do to bash WoW here, but let me give you a little wake up call.

SWTOR will never be as successful as WoW. It will never run as long, it will never have as many players.

That doesn't mean it's a bad game, that doesn't mean it can't be successful, but trying to claim that you should just do the opposite of WoW in everything is beyond stupid.

Here is painful fact number two:

EA would sell their souls to have SWTOR or ANY of their games be as successful as WoW

WoW is the ultimate cash cow and it has a massive user base over seven years after launch. Eight? Who knows.

So, why do so many players like WoW? It's not the first MMO, but it's the first one with market penetration anything like this.

1. They understand that the majority of their players are casual. They will play a couple hours a night at most.
2. They understand that people want to feel like they've gotten something done in that hour or two. The feeling of accomplishment and progression is absolutely required to maintain that player.
3. They understand that people want to play with their friends and if their friends start quitting they quit too. This goes for even the ultrahardcore raiders.
4. They have devised ways in which you can log in, do cool stuff and log out feeling good.
5. They have made it so even casual players can see all the content and yet the hardcore players still have better stats so they're happy too.

So you ask, how does this apply to a LFD tool.

Lets assume that Jane Casual plays 2 hours a night, when she logs in she throws a quick LFG in general in her fleet. Unless she's a healer odds are nobody wants her and so she wanders off to go questing. The alternative is sitting there in the fleet spamming general, it's not all that likely to work and if she doesn't get a group in the first hour or so she wouldn't be able to finish anyway. In the former case she is moderately happy, she's bothered a little that she didn't get to see what the Red Reaper looked like but hey she finished her class quest and now she's Darth Jane the Sorcerer. In the latter she's very unhappy as she wastes half her playtime and doesn't find any groups that want her and her lightning then goes out and finishes a couple of quests and has to log out for the night.

Not a real good experience.

So how does a LFD tool help? She logs in, she clicks that she's interested in doing the level appropriate instances and then runs off to do quests, space combat, pvp or whatever while she waits. Best case it pops quickly and she meets a group of people and they do a couple of runs together. She logs out happy with a few new shiney pieces of loot. Worst case it never pops, in this case she is in the same shape as if she had never even tried from the previous example, and far better off than the one where she hangs around for an hour lfg. Average case might be takes 30 minutes to find a group, she finishes one FP and then goes on her way to try out the shiny new loot.

All of those are much better experiences than not having that tool.

There was a game that used to like to make things as painful as possible, it was called Everquest. When WoW came out it died. You may be ultra ****** hardcore game ninjas (in your own mind) and enjoy the pain of trying to put together a group on a low pop server off prime time, but guess what... for every one of you there are HUNDREDS of Joe/Jane Casual. If you quit, EA doesn't even notice. If they quit, the game shuts down and they lose you too.

Convenience and quality of life is critical to keeping the casual, keeping the casual is critical to staying profitable.

THey didnt have LFR in wrath. It was instroduced in Cata.