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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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navarh
02.14.2012 , 02:22 PM | #511
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
1-4 is 4x15=60 minutes total

3-7 is 3x20=60 minutes total

8-9 is 2x30=60 minutes total

Overal total = 180 minutes. Divide that by your 9 groups and you have a 20 minute average, not 6 minutes 40 seconds.
BLOOODYYY HELLLL




really?



no kidding here?…

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Vlaxitov
02.14.2012 , 02:26 PM | #512
Quote: Originally Posted by navarh View Post
BLOOODYYY HELLLL




really?



no kidding here?…
Yeah I know its amazing...

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ferroz
02.14.2012 , 02:26 PM | #513
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
Overal total = 180 minutes.
This is only the case for the single server queues.; for a cross server queue, there's only 60 minutes.

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Divide that by your 9 groups and you have a 20 minute average,
There's your math mistake. There's only one queue. So if 9 groups are formed in a single queue in an hour, then a group is formed (on average) every 6:40

Edit:
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
65 divided by 3 is over 21 minutes.
Good catch. When I was responding, this didn't make any sense (you had different numbers, 18 with 3 repeating or something like that).

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navarh
02.14.2012 , 02:28 PM | #514
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
There's only one queue.
simple answer

2 3 4 party on server A B and C in lfg mean 9 party per hour withing LFG
just like one big server

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ferroz
02.14.2012 , 02:35 PM | #515
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
Yeah I know its amazing...
I think he was being sarcastic...

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Vlaxitov
02.14.2012 , 02:35 PM | #516
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
There's your math mistake. There's only one queue. So if 9 groups are formed in a single queue in an hour, then a group is formed (on average) every 6:40
If any four classes and roles could run all the HMs then I would concede. Otherwise, your claims don't hold water. The average wait of 20 minutes will still be there and be distributed between the least played roles having literally no wait, and the most played roles having much much longer waits.

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AJediKnight
02.14.2012 , 02:38 PM | #517
It destroys the community.

OP, you can scream into the wind as much as you like, but the fact remains that whatever little community WoW had was absolutely rent asunder by the x-server LFG tool. People no longer cared about ninjaing, playing nice, playing well, or getting a bad reputation. The 'gloves came off' for every would-be MMO troll.
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ferroz
02.14.2012 , 02:39 PM | #518
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
I love you too. However the first mistake was assuming that in the hour only 4 groups can be formed with an average wait time of 15mins.
Actually, I'm talking the other side of the problem, starting from an example, known throughput rate. Given 4 groups come through in an hour, the average group wait time is 15 minutes.

The individual wait times will vary, but they're directly proportional to the group wait times.

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Emeda
02.14.2012 , 02:39 PM | #519
Quote: Originally Posted by Shadowkai View Post
There is NO valid reason NOT to have an Aion style, server wide LFG tool.

None. Period. End of story.

You can make a valid case against a cross-server LFG tool.
We can make a case against any LFG tool that is cross server or automatically puts you in a group.

I dont think anyone is against a tool that will make it easier for you to find people to run a flashpoint with as long as the players make the group themselves.

I mentioned this in another thead. A LFG that I see having no negative effects on the server community.

Allow someone to enter their name into a LFG tool where they can select what type of player they are looking for and what flashpoint

I as wanting to form a group can put my name in and have a checkbox of all the flashpoints I would like to run and it allows me to pick 1 or more of those flashpoints.

Then after that I can again check off what type of player I am looking for,

TANK BH sith warr
Healer BH agent inquisitor
Dps BH warr inquisitor agent

I can check off any of them that I would like or all if I wanted

The LFG tool would also have it so someone looking to join a group could just put in what flashpoint they are looking for, again another checkbox system so you can pick more than one. and then list what you are BH healer.

The system would take all that data and then instantly or ever 30 sec or min whatever, it would send messages to the people wanting to form a group with

"we have found possible players for your group"

tank sith warr player name XXXXXXXX
tank bh player name YYYYYYYYY
DPS inquisitor player name ZZZZZZZZ

the leader then could talk to these players and see if they wanted to join his group or just invite them to the group. This would continue untill the player gets a full groups and marks their status as full.

Once the player marks his status as full they will no longer get messages but players that are looking for a group can see that they were still looking for the players he original checks off but that the group is full. This will allow a backup system so if someone leave it will be quicker to find a replacement. If the player that was in q waiting finds a group different group then his name will be removed.

That to me sounds like it would work. It gives the players the option to choose who they would like in the group in case they want to seperate classes so no one will be rolling on the same loot or if they dont care about getting loot they can just get the flashpoint done. It also removes the getting put into a group already in progress past the boss that you wanted loot off of incase you were there to get loot.

This system also preserves the community because someone who ninjas or dosnt help the group will be known and not invited unless the group leader doesnt care.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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navarh
02.14.2012 , 02:40 PM | #520
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
The average wait of 20 minutes will still be there
how?
one hour, 9 groups must be filled somehow and with 20 minutes of waiting time between?
how?

you just don't understand how it works, stop posting