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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Sylriana
02.14.2012 , 11:49 AM | #391
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
because easy and effortless is the key factor to my video game enjoyment.
Except no one is asking for the game to be easy or effortless. No one in this thread asking for LFD has even mentioned making the content easier, as that has nothing to do with this thread.

Quote: Originally Posted by Progue View Post
How much faster?

I refer you to my former post:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...02#post2830902
faster enough. LFD does nothing to fix disproportionality of tank/healer/dps balance, but it does help increase the pool of players from which to draw from.

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ferroz
02.14.2012 , 11:49 AM | #392
Quote: Originally Posted by Progue View Post
How much faster?

I refer you to my former post:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...02#post2830902
that doesn't link me to your post.

but to answer your question "significantly faster" ... I expect to go from "not worth looking for a group because that part takes too long" to "get a group in <5 minutes, if not withing seconds"

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Vlaxitov
02.14.2012 , 11:50 AM | #393
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
Ah, well, challenging game play is a key factor to my video game enjoyment;
My response you quoted was sarcasm.

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ferroz
02.14.2012 , 11:52 AM | #394
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
My response you quoted was sarcasm.
mine wasn't

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Vlaxitov
02.14.2012 , 11:53 AM | #395
Quote: Originally Posted by Sylriana View Post
Except no one is asking for the game to be easy or effortless.
If you could point me to one mmo that has added an auto grouping LFD tool and the game's devs didn't eventually get around to making it easy and effortless, I'd be happy to go try it out.

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Vlaxitov
02.14.2012 , 11:54 AM | #396
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
mine wasn't
I know... awkward..

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Progue
02.14.2012 , 11:56 AM | #397
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
Of course your experience with WoW's LFD was positive, you wouldn't be running a snarky apologetics campaing for the same thing in these forums if it werent. I'm saying some people can't find groups for a good reason and if you're part of that demographic, LFD tools are nothing but positive for you.

We cannot be expected to have the ability for finding groups to run content on our own. We need the game makers to do that for us. What is that?
Back when I played FFXI (in the old days, haven't played it since WoW came out), it was easy to point out the absolute worst thing about the game: finding groups. The only way you could level in that game was camping mobs in full groups. You spent probably the first hour (on a good day) online looking for a party, and it was a dice roll as to whether that party wouldn't fall apart after the first fight. The only counter to this problem was having a static group of friends with whom you scheduled leveling sessions. This made the game practically inaccessible to new players, unless they were introduced by a friend who had a support system already set up for them (as in a guild).

Why do we need that kind of barrier to accessibility?
"Well, none of this will matter when we're famous singers." -Imperial mechanics officer

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Progue
02.14.2012 , 11:57 AM | #398
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
that doesn't link me to your post.

but to answer your question "significantly faster" ... I expect to go from "not worth looking for a group because that part takes too long" to "get a group in <5 minutes, if not withing seconds"
Second post from the top of that page.

And, unless you're a tank or healer, that's an unrealistic expectation.

You would have to be in a queue with just the right proportion of players and classes to get that kind of time. In WoW, it tends not to matter because of the game population, which is huge.
"Well, none of this will matter when we're famous singers." -Imperial mechanics officer

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TheRainstater
02.14.2012 , 11:57 AM | #399
I would like to vote that I am for a LFD tool.

I have used them in every other game I have played. Its honestly how I have meet most of the people I have gamed with in other games.

I'm not anti social but I don't like it when I get random invites for a group or guild. When I want to party I want to be able to look for one with out doing shout outs for hours. Some groups fail and some kick ***. It's a good way to find quality players or people you work well with that you may have not meet by just shouting out.

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ferroz
02.14.2012 , 11:59 AM | #400
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
If you could point me to one mmo that has added an auto grouping LFD tool and the game's devs didn't eventually get around to making it easy and effortless, I'd be happy to go try it out.
post hoc ergo propter hoc eh?

Quote: Originally Posted by Progue View Post
Second post from the top of that page.
I'm still on that same page (page 10); the second post is by Vlaxitov.