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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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harpuax
02.14.2012 , 11:38 AM | #381
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
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No, the can certainly find groups. Whether they can complete the content or not is up to them at that point.

I see the slippery slope fallacy that is your argument... is that what you meant?
But you instituted the tool so more people can experience the content. This was the reason to have the tool. You believe more people should experience content. More people cannot experience content because it is too hard for them. Therefore we conclude that content must be nerfed also.

If "whether they can complete content or not is up to them" why can't whether they find groups or not be up to them as well?

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DarthFreki
02.14.2012 , 11:38 AM | #382
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
So my question is, why is BioWare simply watching this thread go on and on when it's plainly clear that their LFG implementation is completely valueless?

How about a nice statement from BioWare that you hear the players and you're looking into improvements?
because this is the general forum and they make their posts in other realms of this forum as to what they are doing.

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Vlaxitov
02.14.2012 , 11:38 AM | #383
Quote: Originally Posted by PjPablo View Post
Yeah because that's what I said. lol try harder.

Let me let you in on a little secret...those 'rude and bad players' you speak of......they are already in game....LFD doesn't change that a bit.
You misconstrued what I said and I turned it right back on you. How does your own medicine taste?

Let me let you in on a something that isn't a secret to anyone. Auto grouping LFD tools enable that rude or bad player to continue enjoying themselves at the expense of the rest of our game environments. You can deny that untill you're blue in the face but still know its true.

If I weren't mistaken, I'd say people like you are pushing for socialism in a mmo.

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Whitesmokes
02.14.2012 , 11:40 AM | #384
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
So.. It appears you are looking for convenient and easy.. Perhaps an MMO is not your cup of tea.. Convenient and easy is not what an MMO is about..
this guy knows what hes talking about. ALL MMOs ARE HARD AND INCOVENIENT! psh give me a beak. I play clunky games because frustration is the key factor to my enjoyment of vids.
If it wasnt for WoW, i wouldnt be playing this game.

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PjPablo
02.14.2012 , 11:42 AM | #385
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
You misconstrued what I said and I turned it right back on you. How does your own medicine taste?

Let me let you in on a something that isn't a secret to anyone. Auto grouping LFD tools enable that rude or bad player to continue enjoying themselves at the expense of the rest of our game environments. You can deny that untill you're blue in the face but still know its true.

If I weren't mistaken, I'd say people like you are pushing for socialism in a mmo.
Nope. Not true.

My experience with LFD queues in WOW was a very positive one. The positives greatly outweigh any negatives there may be.

Socialism, huh? You are a funny one.

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Vlaxitov
02.14.2012 , 11:44 AM | #386
Quote: Originally Posted by Whitesmokes View Post
because frustration is the key factor to my enjoyment of vids.
because easy and effortless is the key factor to my video game enjoyment.

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Emeda
02.14.2012 , 11:44 AM | #387
Quote: Originally Posted by Whitesmokes View Post
this guy knows what hes talking about. ALL MMOs ARE HARD AND INCOVENIENT! psh give me a beak. I play clunky games because frustration is the key factor to my enjoyment of vids.
Love your sig. So what is it that WoW did that made you play this game.

This game is a complete copy of WoW and for some reason you dont like WoW but you like this game and adding more things that are in WoW like LFG (which will make it more like WoW) will only make this game better?
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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ferroz
02.14.2012 , 11:46 AM | #388
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
because easy and effortless is the key factor to my video game enjoyment.
Ah, well, challenging game play is a key factor to my video game enjoyment; therefore I'm in favor of lfd, since that lets me get to the game play part faster.

There's no conflcit between the desire for difficult and challenging game play and the desire for simple and easy to use user-interfaces, and the desire for tools that eliminate or reduce the non-gameplay hassles and frustrations.

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Progue
02.14.2012 , 11:47 AM | #389
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
Ah, well, challenging game play is a key factor to my video game enjoyment; therefore I'm in favor of lfd, since that lets me get to the game play part faster.
How much faster?

I refer you to my former post:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...02#post2830902
"Well, none of this will matter when we're famous singers." -Imperial mechanics officer

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Vlaxitov
02.14.2012 , 11:49 AM | #390
Quote: Originally Posted by PjPablo View Post
Nope. Not true.

My experience with LFD queues in WOW was a very positive one. The positives greatly outweigh any negatives there may be.

Socialism, huh? You are a funny one.
Of course your experience with WoW's LFD was positive, you wouldn't be running a snarky apologetics campaing for the same thing in these forums if it werent. I'm saying some people can't find groups for a good reason and if you're part of that demographic, LFD tools are nothing but positive for you.

We cannot be expected to have the ability for finding groups to run content on our own. We need the game makers to do that for us. What is that?