Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

I see you are now leaving out it took you 50 minutes to find groups with LFD.

You are learning my Padawan.

Next Step - a non-automated system does not mean a player HAS to spam General Chat.

So - we're going to use logic and our combined experience with MMO's again.

I am sure like me you have played lots and lots of mmo's over the years.

So between the 2 of us we've likely played UO, M59, NWN, Eq, EQ2, DAOC, AC, GW, WoW, Warhammer, LOTRO, The Realms, uhm other ones I cant think of right now.

On all of those games without LFD's.....how did most people go about looking for a group.


ahhhhh....I can see it in your eyes....realization....the obviousness that people DO and WILL spam chat with LFG groups if there is no LFD....the way they CURRENTLY do right this second in SWTOR at all levels.

Your training is complete.

he seems to have abandoned the issues of how long it takes to find a group with LFD.

In his defense I believe it was Feb of last year when he last played WoW so he has no idea of the improvements to the system and likely played when BG's were the norm.

It still does not explain why not having an LFD and pulling from a larger pool of people would somehow decrease the time it would take to find a group/

False statement. In EQ, nearly a decade ago, I could add cross server friends. In wow, I can currently add cross server friends and group with them; they're making this even more accessible in the near future with their battle tag system.

At best: this is speculation, that they won't add any cross server tools.

Pure speculation, stated as if it were fact. The entire game is instanced as it is, there's no reason to assume that they can't make it work for heroics as well. The cross server lfg tool hasn't been added, so there's no way to know whether it will support doing heroics or not.

Even if you're correct, it's not actually a reason to not add the tool.


None of these are, in any way, an objective reason to not add it. They are certainly reasons why you think it's not necessary, but the fact that you think it's not necessary is a purely subjective reason to not add it.

Did you want to try and come up with some valid reasons to not add it?

With the amount of ridiculous questions I see on this forum about how to do this or that, or I can't beat this class boss ... I have to wonder if all the people worried about rampaging douchebags didn't cause their own problems by just being bad players. I tanked LFDs all the time in WoW and never once had a problem. I've actually seen more people in TOR need roll on stuff they shouldn't use themselves to give it to companions then I ever saw "ninjas" in WoW.

Who says it needs to? These are off fleet, i group with those doing them at the moment i am doing it.

Most of the "problem" is being forced to stand in fleet for hours spamming.

x-server is ********.

A LFG tool for just a single server would help A LOT. Why do i need to sit like a dork in fleet just to get into a fp group. I could be doing stuff on other planets, pvp or whatever and just get into fps using the lfg tool instead.

We do not need x-server. Just merge servers so population is decent in every instance. Like it SHOULD BE!

They tried a server only LFD system in Rift and it failed horribly. I never once got a queue. There just weren't enough healers and tanks on one server to fill the groups.

Just add non cross server LFD Problem solved.

See my above post. It just doesn't work.

So roll a tank or healer and be part of the solution