Alot people forget that this game is new...

When does this game stop being new? Has it gotten its first scratch yet?

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SWTOR is the First MMO
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In seven years... but oh wait, then the OTHER GAME will have been out for 14!

Damn...

Why do people keep comparing software to completely different industries?

How about comparing it to other MMOs? Let's see Rift shipped without a LFD tool and when they added it the thing didn't work. No addon support. Buggy. No guild bank. And on and on.

Would it be nice if a MMO released with every last feature that every last player wants? Sure, but I would rather be playing the game now instead of years from now.

Really WoW is a 7 year old game , where at the time of its launch much of the features we ask today , did NOT EXIST.

To expect TODAY , that a game come with them is totally normal , they have ALREADY been invented , it takes no good ideas , just implementation , something BW seem rly bad at.

So dont compare this game with WoW , cause it has nothing to do with it (today current WoW still beats the crap of this one atm).

BW is a bad company , and this game is lacking , NO EXCUSES, i wonder how long till they actually make something right.

So as it's a Rift comparison you're after, we can expect Bioware to match Rifts schedule of updates then?

Something along the lines of: http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...s-changed.html

Check out some of the joined dates....2009, heck yours is 2010.

Its 2012, so sure this game is new on the market, but how many years in development and legacy was not even available at launch.

This thread is silly. It is actually pretty simple.

If you have two games, one has some functionality and the other does not. Which do you choose? It doesn't matter that the game with the functionality, didn't have it at release or that the game that is missing said functionality are new.

As everything else in life, you compare two products as they are at THIS moment. Thats all that matters. Why should I spend my time on a game that may or may not be good in the future when I can play another that is good now?

As a developer you are competing against everything that is on the market NOW with their current status. The whole compare to wow at launch argument is stupid.

Who's getting hit by what, here?

The complacent attitude of "I'll wait, and continue to pay money, until the game is where it should be" baffles me.

If you buy a car, you don't expect to push it off the lot because the dealer is "working on it" and you need to "give it time" until you get the engine. You expect it to actually work as it should the moment you turn the key.

ToR is the car without the engine - still.

You can be patient and "give it time" if you like. That's fine and it's your choice.

But to suggest that someone is getting "hit by a bus" when you're paying money to beta ToR for BioWare is ludicrous.

It's more like the BioWare bus is hitting your wallet than those of us who are leaving the game because of its state are getting hit by anything else other than a reasonable expectation of a decent MMO released in 2011 that does not play worse than an MMO released in 2004.

ehhr.. it was actually way more polished than tor at launch, still has smaller maintenance windows, separated between EU and US etc...

as for LFD, it worked perfectly fine, but it was same server first. actually the endgame and progression was perfectly fine at launch, yet the whining from people who are unable to do instances without a simply button to click was so loud trion caved in.

or to sum it up: it's not about features, but the state of the game.