Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

Its not needed, you have like 2 planet with fp's right next to each other.

I think you somehow misread the last couple paragraphs of my post. To be completely to the point and specific, my post was in reference to the bonds and connections that form from repeated interaction with a limited (although still large) population of people. And that by expanding that population of people exponentially, the statistical chances of you running into the same player or group of players enough times to actually form any kind of connection are very very low.

Recognition for accomplishments was but one example out of several in that post, and the least important to me personally since i've always been a pvp person, but added anyways for completeness' sake.

your numbers are wrong the decline did not happen till a full year AFTER cross server lfd. matter of fact the decline didnt happen till 4 months after cata release.

You don't have to use it.

Burden of proof is on the claimant. That'd be you.


And -nothing- at all had any impact on WoW in that whole time; absolutely nothing. Just LFG/LFR tools. For you to be correct in this reference, that would have to be true.

Being as that we are not idiots and know that is not, in fact, true, it would take a great deal of very careful examination to identify the actual impact of these tools on WoW since their inception.

Also, yeah, I play WoW as well. Have for quite some time. Don't get too haughty with your 'first hand knowledge', 'cause I've got a big ol' pile of it myself, and there's a lot of nowhere useful to go in arguing over whose perceptions of events is righter than whose.


Once again, you're the one making wild claims from a position of certainty based on facts you cannot evidence as supported by a line of reasoning that would get you thrown out of a highschool debate team by the least capable kid in the room.

Wait - so this is really what, a jealousy thing? You're mad because you were required to play what was ostensibly a harder game? Thats nice that you had the time to farm TBC dungeons.

In Cataclysm LFR puts you in a nerfed version of the dragon soul raid. It does not drop the best gear for the raid and it is only 25-man easy mode content. If you want the best gear you have to find a server-side group. If you want 10-man content you must have a server-side group.

What you farming heroics has to do with anything is beyond me. It means nothing with whether there should be an LFG to make finding a group to do content easier or harder.

All an LFG tool does is make it easier to find a group to do content.

You farmed tbc heroics by finding groups server-side. Great...good for you...I would enjoy the game a heck of a lot more if I was able to experience content using an tool to easily set me up with other players looking to do content.

Channels not spammed with LFG DRAGON SOUL LFG BARADAN HOLD would improve the game for me as well.

I lost levels when I was killed in the first mmo's I ever played. That doesn't mean everyone should man up and we should be losing levels when we die now.

2 (or 3) unnecessary 1-3 minute loading screens and lots of meaningless timesinks to get to the Flashpoint while on PvP you just que up and get ported right into the fray.

I get it. MMOs can be deep social experiences, making memories you'll carry with you forever. If a X-LFG is the lynchpin that ruins your ability to keep doing that, perhaps you should find a different medium with which to make friends and have relationships?

As far as "Community", again if a simple grouping mechanic is the Black Plague of your community, perhaps it it's just time for your community to be buried in a mass grave. Just like Europe in the 15th century, new communities will spring up and rebuild.

What if I dont like most of the people on my server. Why are you trying to force me to do something YOU want to do.

An lfg does not force you to use it. Not having one forces me to sit around spamming looking for a group. I dont want to form bonds with anyone. I want to experience content. This is a game and while many people use it as a social vehicle - I use it to play a game.

In all of the discussion on this there is one point that seems to be should be irrefutable.

Discouraging playability in favor of sociability should never, ever happen in a game.

Why not just implement a LFD tool that takes people from your own server first?