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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Girwen
02.13.2012 , 10:11 PM | #91
For the longest time and well now ive been against a LFD tool in any game. Left LOTRO because they brought up they wanted to bring one in which im sure is there by now this was last fall. But after the amount of time i have played this game on 5 different servers. I must say there really isnt much of a friendly community anyways.
It doesnt seem to matter if its a group quest/flashpoint/pvp i think maybe at most ive had 10people to speak with in about 2 months. The rest might say hey while most never utter a single word. The game being set up so much as a offline RPG just helps that mindset.

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MalignX
02.13.2012 , 10:11 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Filipebar View Post
Well we could very well say show us your facts that it DOESN'T exactly what we say it has been. Facts work both ways otherwise this pointless conversation will just keep going.

As for facts, just look at the numbers for WoW before, and after the LFD system was put into the game. They had a strong 11 million, heading for 12 before it was introduced and things have slowly ebbed away to 10 million. You talk about no facts to support our argument yet some of us have first hand knowledge of what that game in particular has become.

Care to show us your facts? Or are you simply trying to dru the same old lack of facts argument when you have none of your own.
It's a fact that LFG will improve my enjoyment of this game.
Just because I do not care, does not mean I do not understand.

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Kaelshi
02.13.2012 , 10:11 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
Here to make it wasier for you.

What was the reason for LFR? So players could see content

What was it used for? An easy way to get loot

People did not run it to see content because you could actually ignore most of the mechanics of the fight and have 5-10 people afk and still kill it.

So in conclusion it was not used for what it was intended for but instead was ran because it was a fast easy way to get loot.

Free epics for all was the only reason people ran it. IF 10 million people bought SWTOR to make a huge bonfire then you would say that the game was great because 10 million copies sold?

do you even realize that WoW had content you could not queue for? the LFR only gives you certain gear and in order to get the best you had to queue with a same-server group. Unless this changed in the last month(which it hasnt) the LFR was dumbed down. The best gear and the most challenging content was only doable by same-server groups.

Even if you got the best possible gear from heroics and LFR you couldnt queue up for the highest level content.

I'm beginning to think a lot of people anti-lfg either did not actually play WoW and are regurgitating garbage they hear a few whiners say or just falt out did not know there was additional un-queueable content.

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Vlaxitov
02.13.2012 , 10:12 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Orisai View Post
I'm yet to read any reason why people seem to have a problem or hate the auto-teleport. It's already done in PvP, so why the hate on PvE?
I'll never use X-LFG and even I don't understand the teleport hate. I wish there was something like summoning stones right now.

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Vlaxitov
02.13.2012 , 10:13 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by MalignX View Post
It's a fact that LFG will improve my enjoyment of this game.
It's a fact that X-LFD will degrade my enjoyment of this game.

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MalignX
02.13.2012 , 10:14 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
It's a fact that X-LFD will degrade my enjoyment of this game.
I'm very sorry to hear that.
Just because I do not care, does not mean I do not understand.

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TonyIommi
02.13.2012 , 10:15 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaelshi View Post
do you even realize that WoW had content you could not queue for? the LFR only gives you certain gear and in order to get the best you had to queue with a same-server group. Unless this changed in the last month(which it hasnt) the LFR was dumbed down. The best gear and the most challenging content was only doable by same-server groups.

Even if you got the best possible gear from heroics and LFR you couldnt queue up for the highest level content.

I'm beginning to think a lot of people anti-lfg either did not actually play WoW and are regurgitating garbage they hear a few whiners say or just falt out did not know there was additional un-queueable content.
I did since vanilla. I farmed EVERY SINGLE HEROIC KEY in tbc when it still required REVERED without the assistance of LFD. People lived without it in the past they can do it again. Having said that the cat is out of the bag at this point. It's coming and the best we can hope to do is mitigate it so that HARD MODES are still HARD MODES.

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tormeanted
02.13.2012 , 10:17 PM | #98
Their programmers suck and don't know how to implement it.
Sheesh. Body type 3 and 4 can't get through the hole for a datacron, and they can't move a triangle to fix it.
It's poor programmers, and EA cutting corners.

Bioware has not given reasons for not doing it, they just don't know how.
There is no cross server WZs either.
May the force be with you.

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Kaelshi
02.13.2012 , 10:17 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Filipebar View Post
Well we could very well say show us your facts that it DOESN'T exactly what we say it has been. Facts work both ways otherwise this pointless conversation will just keep going.

As for facts, just look at the numbers for WoW before, and after the LFD system was put into the game. They had a strong 11 million, heading for 12 before it was introduced and things have slowly ebbed away to 10 million. You talk about no facts to support our argument yet some of us have first hand knowledge of what that game in particular has become.

Care to show us your facts? Or are you simply trying to dru the same old lack of facts argument when you have none of your own.

Are you actually suggesting this had something to do with the implementation of the LFG tool?

I can only believe you are passionate about this and typed this out without thinking.

To pin erosion of subscriptions on this is crazy. A major patch was released, boosted subs, and inevitably as with all patches subs began to erode along with the release and anticipated release of this very game. Yet you are suggesting 2 million people were so fed up with LFG that they left wow?

The only argument anyone has on either side of this debate is personal experience - not factual information they can in anyway validate(I can't factually say 2million people did NOT leave but I can use common sense and historical data on what happens after patch releases - ie the same thing happened post-lich king and post-tbc with a sharp increase followed by slow decline)

Your personal experience with LFG is apparently bad. Thats fine. Say that, dont try to state facts that are not true- that would be called lying.

My personal experience with LFG is good - it allowed me to play content I was not able to play pre-lfg. I am not here saying things like FACT-MORE PEOPLE LOVE LFG THAN HATE IT< THATS A FACT!!!

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Vlaxitov
02.13.2012 , 10:17 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaelshi View Post
I'm beginning to think a lot of people anti-lfg either did not actually play WoW and are regurgitating garbage they hear a few whiners say or just falt out did not know there was additional un-queueable content.
I played WoW from release through WoTLK. WoTLK was soo bad that I quit and never bothered with cataclysm.

You're really on top of your ad hominem game.