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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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MajikMyst
02.13.2012 , 09:38 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitewolfe View Post
Actually convenient and easy is what the genre is about NOW. If you dont like it maybe main stream mmo's are not YOUR cup of tea!!
That maybe what it is to you.. It isn't to people that actually like to play MMO's and like the challenge.. Your views are not main stream.. So don't kid yourself.. Easy and convenient is what is ruining WOW.. When the Pandas are set free, there won't even be a talent tree..

So?? Where are those numbers you speak of?? Or should we just chalk that post up to fabrication and exxageration??
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boobaffet
02.13.2012 , 09:38 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitewolfe View Post
good for you.. i can rest easy knowing at worst ill only run across you once and then /ignore will take care of me ever seeing you again.
i dont care, i will just get grouped with other ppl.

and you will group with other people that do the same as me.. because they can.(will)

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Damarog
02.13.2012 , 09:39 PM | #43
Aids..if you use it you will get aids. Go ahead...queue, I dare you.
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Nitewolfe
02.13.2012 , 09:39 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by lunabaguna View Post
It won be now and then, it will be 80-90% of your groups. Youed be better off bringing a companion.
false numbers.. i have ran thousands of cross server zones in wow and rift and only ran across a very small amount of players like this!

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Uruare
02.13.2012 , 09:40 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
You know why everyone was running it? It wasnt for what they made it for. Blizzard made LFR so that all players could see the content.

The reason people ran it was

1. Elite guilds ran it 15-20 times in the first week to gear up their mains for world progression
2. People ran it to get gear that was better than T11 heroic gear while having to put in zero effort

The experiment of LFR failed for its intended purpose. Blizzard not wanting to admit it was a failure called it a success because everyone was running it.


...Are you out of your mind? A failure? The only failure was failing to predict an exploit top end guilds figured out and lockstepped themselves into using.

They were looting, teleporting out, porting back in and being able to loot a second time.

There's the big fail of LFR. It was hotfixed thereafter, a lot of gear got stripped after the exploiters were identified and several bans were issued.


Every other failure; the griefing and the ***-hattery on the parts of some?; that's got nothing to do with LFR or LFD and everything to do with that some people are windowlicking clowns eager for an audience.

Those same sorts of people have been a pain in everyone's *** the whole bloody time. LFR/LFD didn't invent them.

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MalignX
02.13.2012 , 09:40 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
You aren't debunking myths, you're misconstruing claims and opinions like a strawman on fire.



While you have some great ideas here, you never address the central argument pertaining to "ruins the community." The only reason I give you the time of day or an ounce of respect over a video game is that you're a good player who reciprocates that respect. Thats community, plain & simple.

Now you can say I don't have to use it and don't worry I won't but thats not what its about. Bioware could probably make even more people happy and pick up additional subs if they just added a gta hot coffee style minigame to their cut scenes, even make it co-op. Again, I wouldn't have to participate in that either but now I'm surrounded by people in a game I play for that gta hot coffee purpose degrading my environment. Thats not unlike being surrounded by people who need a LFG tool as a form of social training wheels to play their way through the design of this game and degrading my environment.



You aren't even giving a straight answer to your own made up argument. Nobody who is anti lfg tool that I know uses this claim.



You aren't seeing rampant disrespect yet because people are still accountable, its soo simple. This isn't WoW's massive pop servers, factions are lucky to have a even a few hundred logged on at a time. You wrap this up with quantity over quality argument at the end. Something like "you will see more disrespect but hey, you'll run more dungeons." I get it that the trade off is worth it to you. It isn't worth it to me.



Another repackaged "if you don't like it don't use it" argument. I won't use it, but that won't stave off the end result that my game environment will be degraded by the unaccountable disrespect that you indirectly deny.



Lazy would be putting nicely. Self entitled narcissictic social invalids NEEDING a LFG tool as they wouldn't be playing mmos otherwise mainly by their own admission would be putting it harshly.



The people who are already getting the most out of their time won't need the LFG tool when it comes out. Limited time isn't the real argument. Its more about lack of initiative and patience but plenty of entitlement.



The game IS a social activity. Who says I will be playing with "douchebags" on my own server? I can assure you I won't. At least I can get to know who the "douchebags" are on my server and not play with them which is why I won't be grouping with people off server. I don't find your "lets anonymously share our "douchebags" closing statement to be a very attractive offer.

Sign me up under narcissistic social invalid, cause LFG is on it's way.
Just because I do not care, does not mean I do not understand.

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Filipebar
02.13.2012 , 09:41 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitewolfe View Post
here posting my 100% support for a cross server lfg system!
There is no good reason NOT to have one just biased people with no facts! just personal experiences that were biased to not liking it to start with. Notice the ones saying from day one they knew they wouldnt like it in the wow system. People who want to find bad will find it even if it doesnt exist they will fabricate or exaggerate!
I believe the words you were looking for were "Facts I dont find convienient because I want a LFG system despite proof of what it did to wow". Just saying, this system would be useful for a lot of us but I could care less really. They have other more important things to work on.
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MalignX
02.13.2012 , 09:41 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Filipebar View Post
I believe the words you were looking for were "Facts I dont find convienient because I want a LFG system despite proof of what it did to wow". Just saying, this system would be useful for a lot of us but I could care less really. They have other more important things to work on.
10 Million people playing wow is a horrible side effect of LFG.
Just because I do not care, does not mean I do not understand.

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Nitewolfe
02.13.2012 , 09:41 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by TonyIommi View Post
One of the few salient arguments against it is that it doesn't really address the main reason people are having trouble finding groups. Low population servers should be merged or migrated. LFD covers this up, it has for years in warcraft. It would be similar to giving pain medication to a cancer patient and then declaring the cancer has been cured.
The main reason cross server lfg tools work is due to the automated match making process.
People do not like to form the group themselves. The tool takes that chore away and that is the number one reason it is a success. Number 2 is with cross server players to pool from the times to find a group are low!

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boobaffet
02.13.2012 , 09:42 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by MalignX View Post
10 Million people playing wow is a horrible side effect of LFG.
nah the side effect is people never leaving the main town and dumbed down content