Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Heretiq

02.13.2012 , 07:22 PM \| #991
Quote: Originally Posted by Amiracle Sounds like you are the one playing the victim with many of the statements in this post. Sadly you cannot see it. If I was Darkcerb I wouldn't even dignify your bulls*it with an answer.
English is not my first language.

darkcerb

02.13.2012 , 07:23 PM \| #992
Quote: Originally Posted by Amiracle Sounds like you are the one playing the victim with many of the statements in this post. Sadly you cannot see it. Are you really suggesting it's peoples faults for being on a low pop server, is that really what your argument has come to? Btw I'm on harbinger probably the highest pop server. Quote: Already has a lfg tool. How can they add what it already has? And the majority don't use it just like if the majority don't want a cross server tool they wont use it, thank you for agreeing with me?

ispanolfw

02.13.2012 , 07:24 PM \| #993
Quote: Originally Posted by Heretiq Yeah - you're right. I said that multiple times. It was an unproven and baseless assumption without any facts whatsoever to back it up - like everything else in this thread. The only thing that I know is that most people like convenient and time-saving tools (calculators, computers, cars, telephones ...). The Cross-Server LFG-Tool is a convenient and time-saving tool. Therefore I figured that most people will probably like such a tool and that most people would like it implemented into the game. I like time saving tools too! But not if they hinder my game experience. You're only looking at the one aspect of it. That's the problem. Not that you want it or think it will be a good thing, there's nothing wrong with that. It's more the saying just about anything against it is wrong that is the problem. Again, i'm not for or against. But my opinions don't blind me to what will happen if it comes.

Raansu

02.13.2012 , 07:26 PM \| #994
Quote: Originally Posted by ispanolfw Minor negatives? To who, you? Is it minor to people who play to talk with others and socialize? No? Why? Look, I completely understand why people want it. I understand what problems it does solve. I personally don't care if it comes or doesn't. But I also understand what the cons of it are. I can understand the type of people this will hurt. I can look at things from multiple angles without letting MY opinion affect it. Who the hell talks when doing raids!? Seriously!? My guild uses mumble and even our conversations are kept to a minimum when raiding. If you wanna chit chat go do it on the damn fleet. If I see you BSing and typing away during a FP and are handicapping our progression, I will kick you out of the damn group. There's nothing wrong with making a few jokes here and there during some of the downtime, but overall, I want you concentrating on the fights. And even then, PUGS ARE STILL PUGS. LFD or not, they are still RANDOM PEOPLE that you will not socialize with anyways. Pugs now are NO DIFFERENT then a LFD pug. You get your group, you run the content, you say thanks at the end and leave... The cons are so minuscule that its not even worth mentioning, and most of it is just in your head. It doesn't affect anyone, it doesn't hurt the community, it changes nothing. Pugs are still pugs, the only difference is now your not sitting on the fleet spamming for 2 hours. End game will still be run by guilds, people will still make friends, nothing changes.

ispanolfw

02.13.2012 , 07:26 PM \| #995
Quote: Originally Posted by darkcerb And yet even though it would help them people don't use the current system. Correct! They may not like to use it, they may not want to use it. That's the point. I'm not here saying it shouldn't be implemented. I'm here saying that if you want it implemented you damn well better be ACCEPTING that you're going to hurt a different part of the playerbase should it go live. And not going off that it won't hurt them.

terminova

02.13.2012 , 07:26 PM \| #996
Why even bother making these threads right now? Just wait until whatever tool they come up with makes it live, and then start posting threads about how much you hate it, how broken it is and how many problems it has.

darkcerb

02.13.2012 , 07:27 PM \| #997
Quote: Originally Posted by Heretiq If I was Darkcerb I wouldn't even dignify your bulls*it with an answer. These arguments aren't new to me at all, I was there long before and long after wow's implementation of the system. It's nostalgic in a way, and that nostalgia reminds me that the industry moved past the irrational fear of some, I have faith it will again but that wont stop me from having my say.

souloferdrick

02.13.2012 , 07:27 PM \| #998
What does it tell you that you can't sell LFD on its benefits and instead have to go full inquisitor mode to route out heresy and force a consensus? Im not worried about LFD ruining communities because any player base even semi dependent on LFD for grouping has no community with which to speak of anyway. Its all kind of moot anyway because beyond guilds, mass market MMO "communities" are largely nothing more than a collection of addicted, narcissistic aholes. It should be fairly obvious to anyone with a functioning brain that LFD is a breeding ground for griefers and ninjas since they depend on being grouped with random people.

Amiracle

02.13.2012 , 07:28 PM \| #999
Quote: Originally Posted by Heretiq If I was Darkcerb I wouldn't even dignify your bulls*it with an answer. How so. Read his posts. Did he not say that Bio is stopping him from doing group content....yes Did he not say that the LFG tool is stopping people on his server from doing events...yes Did he not say that ha cannot get a group because of low server pop even though he can go to a high pop server...yes Seems he is the one playing the victim. Seems to me the only ones who can claim the title of victim are the ones who do not want cross server lfg because its you who are trying to impose your wants over theirs.

ispanolfw

02.13.2012 , 07:28 PM \| #1000
Quote: Originally Posted by Raansu Who the hell talks when doing raids!? Seriously!? My guild uses mumble and even our conversations are kept to a minimum when raiding. If you wanna chit chat go do it on the damn fleet. If I see you BSing and typing away during a FP and are handicapping our progression, I will kick you out of the damn group. There's nothing wrong with making a few jokes here and there during some of the downtime, but overall, I want you concentrating on the fights. And even then, PUGS ARE STILL PUGS. LFD or not, they are still RANDOM PEOPLE that you will not socialize with anyways. Pugs now are NO DIFFERENT then a LFD pug. You get your group, you run the content, you say thanks at the end and leave... The cons are so minuscule that its not even worth mentioning, and most of it is just in your head. It doesn't affect anyone, it doesn't hurt the community, it changes nothing. Pugs are still pugs, the only difference is now your not sitting on the fleet spamming for 2 hours. End game will still be run by guilds, people will still make friends, nothing changes. Not you apparently, and that wasn't even the point. Some people like the journey of finding a group and then doing a dungeon/FP. You may not like that part, doesn't mean there aren't people who do. Also if you're spamming for pugs, you're not going to have a ton of luck in the first place in all honesty. Considering spamming is seen as negative to some people.

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