The reason Sorcerers/Sages are OP in PvP

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The reason Sorcerers/Sages are OP in PvP

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Varicite

02.13.2012 , 06:16 PM \| #941
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri Sorry. I went out to get food but I guess not camping the thread 24/7 makes me appear clueless. I guess I'll just have to resort to eating chips for lunch and dinner until this thread dies or Sorcerer talent trees get changed. You're entirely wrong about immobilize by the way. It's basically a stun that breaks on damage. Not sure what crazy testing you did. I'm thinking the imaginary kind. @ Scenario of PT vs Sorcerer - You proved you have a DECENT chance of going toe to toe with a Sorcerer 1v1. This means if you do absolutely everything right you might kill him in a 1v1. In every other situation(90% of PvP is group battles) you're absolutely worthless compared to a Sorcerer. Your grip is good utility for giant zergs I suppose but other than that there's nothing you bring. Your class is actually the best equipped to deal with ranged DPS and you still have to give it your all to have a shot at killing Sorcerers 1v1. Other melee will have a harder time in 1v1. All melee have no chance at all in most normal group PvP. I've mentioned tons of times that 1v1 is when a Sorcerer is at his WEAKEST. You're still trying to push a decent chance at killing a Sorcerer 1v1 with the best anti-range melee in the game as proof they're not dominant. My "all" didn't include either of my 2 stuns, and only half of my abilities. I can honestly just burn HO and score a free kill since I am immune to half of their bag of tricks, and they make me immune to the other half. I have a much better than decent chance, lol. If you mean group PvP, it's easier because I also have Sorcs on my team, and my fiancee plays an Immortal Jug, so I'd have Guard, Taunt, and her leaps on my side. But either way, group PvP is a dynamic event, and I'm not about to list the millions of possible outcomes depending on group composition, etc. What I was trying to show is that if you know what you are doing, a Sorc's bag of tricks no longer seems very daunting.
Quote: Originally Posted by JayPres Strap your digital dog to your digital roof and take your ideologies, lovely wife, and sweet little 8yr old girl to a PVE server where you fit best.

Rallic

02.13.2012 , 06:20 PM \| #942
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezeit Oh please don't humor them. On the plus side every time they post it pops this thread to the top of the list, making it more likely that the devs will see it. The devs have seen it,they also are not going to nerf sorcs baced on scrubs and trolls . They can see the dmg sorcs do in game logs they have said so. They see how much dmg mercs do and how little it takes to play one They see sorcs die very easy to good players. As they made the game they also know sorcs can't Have every cc in ever tree Can't be all 3 trees at once They know when your a troll to

Nxbroham

02.13.2012 , 06:33 PM \| #943
Really cuz they nerfed Scoundrel/Operatives due to your constant crying on forums... but when it comes to a class you all play you scream like little girls at a justin bieber concert... i still ruin people in pvp after my nerf and another one is on the way to gimp my class more, but you guy cant admit when your class is doing more damage than intended... What a bunch or babies! Take it like a man and find a new spec or rotation instead of telling people your not as good as they say your class is.
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Tumri

02.13.2012 , 06:33 PM \| #944
Quote: Originally Posted by Rallic Have every cc in ever tree The 0/20/21 spec picks up every single cc in every tree except for the slow on affliction from the healing tree.
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Sayuri-chan

02.13.2012 , 06:34 PM \| #945
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri Sorry. I went out to get food but I guess not camping the thread 24/7 makes me appear clueless. I guess I'll just have to resort to eating chips for lunch and dinner until this thread dies or Sorcerer talent trees get changed. You're entirely wrong about immobilize by the way. It's basically a stun that breaks on damage. Not sure what crazy testing you did. I'm thinking the imaginary kind. @ Scenario of PT vs Sorcerer - You proved you have a DECENT chance of going toe to toe with a Sorcerer 1v1. This means if you do absolutely everything right you might kill him in a 1v1. In every other situation(90% of PvP is group battles) you're absolutely worthless compared to a Sorcerer. Your grip is good utility for giant zergs I suppose but other than that there's nothing you bring. Your class is actually the best equipped to deal with ranged DPS and you still have to give it your all to have a shot at killing Sorcerers 1v1. Other melee will have a harder time in 1v1. All melee have no chance at all in most normal group PvP. I've mentioned tons of times that 1v1 is when a Sorcerer is at his WEAKEST. You're still trying to push a decent chance at killing a Sorcerer 1v1 with the best anti-range melee in the game as proof they're not dominant. @ L2P issue - This is getting tiresome. If I post screenshots showing what I can do in a typical WZ(time in the corner and daily quests prove that didn't just cherry pick warzones to screenshot) then the argument then becomes "Marauders OP. You killed Sorcerers." If I don't post screenshots it's "L2P you suck". https://imgur.com/a/Kk2Fd#0 - Album of warzones that I've played since I started the thread. I don't PvP much and I use PvE gear whenever I do since my PvP gear has mods ripped out. http://i.imgur.com/qEpsA.jpg - Me on an alt Sorcerer. I realize it's pre-50 but even being one of the lowest levels and not having the majority of my CC I was able to still do considerably better than anyone else there just like on my Marauder. @ PT vs sorc The reason PT's can own sorcs 1 vs 1 is because their resource system allows them to, thats the same reason why they suck at group battles since after you burst someone you cant even do some decent damage without laying low firsts.

Rallic

02.13.2012 , 06:38 PM \| #946
Quote: Originally Posted by Nxbroham Really cuz they nerfed Scoundrel/Operatives due to your constant crying on forums... but when it comes to a class you all play you scream like little girls at a justin bieber concert... i still ruin people in pvp after my nerf and another one is on the way to gimp my class more, but you guy cant admit when your class is doing more damage than intended... What a bunch or babies! Take it like a man and find a new spec or rotation instead of telling people your not as good as they say your class is. Seams to me your.bitter about the nerf to ops that still do runs more dmg then a sorc . kills fastet can hide has water when its hid ya but sorcs are op. Ops own sorcs like nothing and if you can't kill a sorc 1v1 with a ops you need to uninstal the game as you are so bad that there is no hope for ypur keyboard turning ***.

Varicite

02.13.2012 , 06:39 PM \| #947
Quote: Originally Posted by Sayuri-chan @ PT vs sorc The reason PT's can own sorcs 1 vs 1 is because their resource system allows them to, thats the same reason why they suck at group battles since after you burst someone you cant even do some decent damage without laying low firsts. Absolute truth here. Killing doesn't come w/out a cost. : ) It's not so bad that I need to vent after each person, but it does take quite a bit of managing if procs don't line up.
Quote: Originally Posted by JayPres Strap your digital dog to your digital roof and take your ideologies, lovely wife, and sweet little 8yr old girl to a PVE server where you fit best.

Rallic

02.13.2012 , 06:44 PM \| #948
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri Sorry. I went out to get food but I guess not camping the thread 24/7 makes me appear clueless. I guess I'll just have to resort to eating chips for lunch and dinner until this thread dies or Sorcerer talent trees get changed. You're entirely wrong about immobilize by the way. It's basically a stun that breaks on damage. Not sure what crazy testing you did. I'm thinking the imaginary kind. @ Scenario of PT vs Sorcerer - You proved you have a DECENT chance of going toe to toe with a Sorcerer 1v1. This means if you do absolutely everything right you might kill him in a 1v1. In every other situation(90% of PvP is group battles) you're absolutely worthless compared to a Sorcerer. Your grip is good utility for giant zergs I suppose but other than that there's nothing you bring. Your class is actually the best equipped to deal with ranged DPS and you still have to give it your all to have a shot at killing Sorcerers 1v1. Other melee will have a harder time in 1v1. All melee have no chance at all in most normal group PvP. I've mentioned tons of times that 1v1 is when a Sorcerer is at his WEAKEST. You're still trying to push a decent chance at killing a Sorcerer 1v1 with the best anti-range melee in the game as proof they're not dominant. @ L2P issue - This is getting tiresome. If I post screenshots showing what I can do in a typical WZ(time in the corner and daily quests prove that didn't just cherry pick warzones to screenshot) then the argument then becomes "Marauders OP. You killed Sorcerers." If I don't post screenshots it's "L2P you suck". https://imgur.com/a/Kk2Fd#0 - Album of warzones that I've played since I started the thread. I don't PvP much and I use PvE gear whenever I do since my PvP gear has mods ripped out. http://i.imgur.com/qEpsA.jpg - Me on an alt Sorcerer. I realize it's pre-50 but even being one of the lowest levels and not having the majority of my CC I was able to still do considerably better than anyone else there just like on my Marauder. Lol so 1v1 sorcs are ok but in group they are op as you can't kill them with there team healing or guarding them . Hahaha this has to be a troll it just has to . please tell me your trolling that you can't solo the sorc that has a team backing him/her

baltman

02.13.2012 , 06:50 PM \| #949
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri The 0/20/21 spec picks up every single cc in every tree except for the slow on affliction from the healing tree. This is not entirely correct. The top madness talent is a dot with a 2 second root. That being said, I enjoy playing full madness spec. I have no problem with them rearranging trees to force people to choose one or the other. I hate that people claim every sorc or sage is a specific spec and say nerf them all.

Athred

02.13.2012 , 06:52 PM \| #950
Its not the class its the player. Am lvl50 sorc and I kinda always get in the top of Wz, but thats cause I now how to play my class, I've gotten owned by al Republic and Imperial more than once, it doesnt mean I cant beat them, hell I've even seen people who get more medals than fully geared sorc and many other class, you people need to stop complaining about sorc and just play your charact and make it the best.

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