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The reason Sorcerers/Sages are OP in PvP

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The reason Sorcerers/Sages are OP in PvP

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Varicite
02.13.2012 , 05:55 PM | #931
Quote: Originally Posted by Khalirei View Post
So you're not correctly specced? you said they were the closest thing to a hard counter, now you're saying if they're specced they can kill them with ease? so why aren't you specced like that?
Because I didn't care much for the playstyle, and because the utility provided by my spec allows me to kill casters and tanks quite handily. The specs I mentioned are both tanking specs built for mitigation and mobility, and I am a dps, so they play worlds apart.

Some of us play the specs we enjoy, and not what the most popular spec is.

So no, I'm not correctly spec'd to go toe to toe w/ an Assassin or other heavy melee dps, as I do not have many defenses.

I can, however, kite them pretty well and can beat them if our gear is comparable sometimes, it's pretty 50/50 so far.

Are you really that curious about why I decided to run a hybrid PT spec?

For the exact same reasons that I used to run the hybrid Sorc spec, more CC options and utility at the expense of the higher damage talents in both trees.
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Dezeit
02.13.2012 , 05:56 PM | #932
LOL - would that be a fire of Sorc generated lightning by any chance.

I recomend everyone create a sorc, oh it seems like they already have

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Lormif
02.13.2012 , 06:01 PM | #933
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezeit View Post
LOL - would that be a fire of Sorc generated lightning by any chance.

I recomend everyone create a sorc, oh it seems like they already have
Go for it, cant wait to see you get wasted.

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Dezeit
02.13.2012 , 06:04 PM | #934
Oh so much love on the forums.

Something tells me playing a sorc I will be more than OK.

Huttball anyone ?

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Tumri
02.13.2012 , 06:08 PM | #935
Quote: Originally Posted by Lormif View Post
funny, I dont think we have seen the OP since we showed him he has no clue what immobilize does.
Sorry. I went out to get food but I guess not camping the thread 24/7 makes me appear clueless. I guess I'll just have to resort to eating chips for lunch and dinner until this thread dies or Sorcerer talent trees get changed.

You're entirely wrong about immobilize by the way. It's basically a stun that breaks on damage. Not sure what crazy testing you did. I'm thinking the imaginary kind.


@ Scenario of PT vs Sorcerer - You proved you have a DECENT chance of going toe to toe with a Sorcerer 1v1. This means if you do absolutely everything right you might kill him in a 1v1. In every other situation(90% of PvP is group battles) you're absolutely worthless compared to a Sorcerer. Your grip is good utility for giant zergs I suppose but other than that there's nothing you bring. Your class is actually the best equipped to deal with ranged DPS and you still have to give it your all to have a shot at killing Sorcerers 1v1. Other melee will have a harder time in 1v1. All melee have no chance at all in most normal group PvP.

I've mentioned tons of times that 1v1 is when a Sorcerer is at his WEAKEST. You're still trying to push a decent chance at killing a Sorcerer 1v1 with the best anti-range melee in the game as proof they're not dominant.

@ L2P issue - This is getting tiresome. If I post screenshots showing what I can do in a typical WZ(time in the corner and daily quests prove that didn't just cherry pick warzones to screenshot) then the argument then becomes "Marauders OP. You killed Sorcerers." If I don't post screenshots it's "L2P you suck".

https://imgur.com/a/Kk2Fd#0 - Album of warzones that I've played since I started the thread. I don't PvP much and I use PvE gear whenever I do since my PvP gear has mods ripped out.

http://i.imgur.com/qEpsA.jpg - Me on an alt Sorcerer. I realize it's pre-50 but even being one of the lowest levels and not having the majority of my CC I was able to still do considerably better than anyone else there just like on my Marauder.
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Rallic
02.13.2012 , 06:10 PM | #936
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezeit View Post
LOL - would that be a fire of Sorc generated lightning by any chance.

I recomend everyone create a sorc, oh it seems like they already have
This is easy go their and see how many of you are QQing about sorcs. Then take a look.at how many play the game .
I'm willing to bet the QQers are .000001% or less .

Look iv all but stopped playing my sorc for my Jedi shadow. If they nerf sorcs its not going to mater to me. But are one of the first sorcs to hit L50 on my server mostly from PvP grinding out hut ball unroll it makes me puke. I cam tell you that they are not any more op then the rest of the classes solo. Add a guard from a tank or cross healing and they are gods.

But wait so are assassins and ops and merc , and jug and power Tec even marauders are op when groupef with a team.

Stop trying to be Rambo team up work together and win. Solo Rambo style and lose bad to any one grouping. It's a team baced game, they can not solo 4 kill you like a ops or assassin can . They can slowly burn you down.

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Varicite
02.13.2012 , 06:11 PM | #937
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezeit View Post
Oh so much love on the forums.

Something tells me playing a sorc I will be more than OK.

Huttball anyone ?
Hope I see you there! Sorcs are always a fun fight in Huttball. : D

The best part is when they try to knock me off the bridges and NOTHING HAPPENS.

Good times.
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Dezeit
02.13.2012 , 06:12 PM | #938
Oh please don't humor them.

On the plus side every time they post it pops this thread to the top of the list, making it more likely that the devs will see it.

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Lormif
02.13.2012 , 06:14 PM | #939
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri View Post

You're entirely wrong about immobilize by the way. It's basically a stun that breaks on damage. Not sure what crazy testing you did. I'm thinking the imaginary kind.

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It is pretty simple, I got my Trooper roommate, took him into my ship and then dueled him, EVery time I force waved, spec'ed to immobilize from max distance, he was able to harpoon/grapple me right back to him.

Why dont you try it yourself before you speak more nonsense.

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Dezeit
02.13.2012 , 06:15 PM | #940
Oh so a sorcs only ability in hutball is to knock people off the walkways, interesting.