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The reason Sorcerers/Sages are OP in PvP

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The reason Sorcerers/Sages are OP in PvP

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Varicite
02.13.2012 , 05:14 PM | #901
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri View Post
Yes. Go ahead and take my posts out of context. Mix up different responses to different scenarios. That will make you appear very intelligent indeed.

I said that only an idiot would DoT people up while trying to escape a 2v1 through the use of CC. In any other scenario of course you use DoTs. If you anticipate that you'll be in melee range shortly you delay the DoT.
This isn't at all what you were saying before, not even remotely.

Is it because everyone made you look silly when you last tried to describe what you THINK a Sorc can do?
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Varicite
02.13.2012 , 05:16 PM | #902
Quote: Originally Posted by Khalirei View Post
You don't have to agree with anyone. You can feel how you want. The facts are that the entire class of either spec is extremely overpowered in the sense of survival. All they do is promote a false feeling of skill in the inquisitor players, while encouraging cowardly strategies in pvp.

Not to mention abusing frozen quickwater on top of EVERYTHING else they can already do.
http://www.torhead.com/item/gW66Dxg/...water#comments

Anyone who even tries to defend that is simply covering for the fact that they themselves play exactly like that. And if that's not the case, then you're just defending them to spite anyone who complains about that class.

The class needs a nerf as much as trooper needs to do something other than gravity round spam.
That's actually not a fact at all, that's called an "opinion".

And if you mean that people use their classes' strengths to their advantage in PvP combat, then yeah, I play exactly like that.
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DestyOwn
02.13.2012 , 05:17 PM | #903
Man i love reading this thread, it's fun to see how all the sorcerers are trying to defend their class saying they are not op. But if you ask the best sorcerers which i whisperer on my server, and i asked them do you find your class abit OP, and they all say yes.

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sithgrizley
02.13.2012 , 05:18 PM | #904
Quote: Originally Posted by shaidarlol View Post
yes my points are clearly just complete false anecdotal evidence, much like yours.
20s cds, bubble, sprint, knockback. too much apparently for you to handle.

as where you point out my apparent grammatical errors i point out your game mechanic errors, and yet i have incoherent arguments.

i think it's time for you to cry else where.
The one with game mechanic errors is you.

You talk about Deception being the Assassin PvP tree. It's generally agreed that Deception is the WORST PvP assassin tree. The top specs are 31/0/10 tank spec and Madness spec. The Madness spec is basically Sorc-lite and while it's strong it's not Sorc strong.

The main problem with Deception is survivability. It has the same light armor as a Sorc but lacks the bubble for a soak. In addition it requires being in melee range which means there is no chance people ignore it. Seeing a VS animation is just advertising "I do good damage but am a free kill if attacked" and contrary to popular believe, either through accident or skill it's very rare a Deception assassin doesn't get squished within a couple of GCD after popping out of steath. Just as well as a pair of Mauls would use 100% of their force pool anyway.

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Rallic
02.13.2012 , 05:18 PM | #905
Quote: Originally Posted by mSum View Post
I think BW should nerf everything but me!

No really Sorcerers/Sages do need to be fixed....if for no other reason than to reduce the numbers of them in PvP. I played a match last night that had 6 Jedi Consular's in it. So many little pebbles were thrown at me.
Lmao so more players like the only casters in the game, there are to many of them for your taste so nerf them so there are less of them.

Ya that's the way to make this game die nefing a class all so you don't have to see them as much.


It's funny that all 20 of you bag on sorcs when mercs have tuns more dps .use 2 skills 80% of the time and .can heal push and do all most any thing a sorc can.

Sorcs are just as rooted unless they are doing nothing but dots and dots are worth nothing with out the others dps that we have to stand there to use..

Sorcs do not get all the cc in any tree. Hybrids get most of them but not all. And to get most of them the heals they get are junk.

as I uave a level 50 merc I know how they work . Iv got a level 50 sorc to. Merc is by far the bigger dps and easy to play . With that side sorcs are easy to play to. Just know when to use what.

Iv moved onto a shadow , I wish I could turn my sorc into a assassin. Played right assassins/shadows are op and can solo any class in any build. I think a lot of the sorc hate is assassins/shadows and nubs not knowing that they are not the same thing.

Iv logged into my sorc like 4 Times in 3 or so weeks. let me act respec and you will never see my sorc as a sorc.

And hybrid is a good thing . Is bet no one out there is running the same spec as me. I don't even give it to guildys , now some will be close I'm sure but not the same. I do very well with it. Some classes drop me like a rock other get dropped. It's nice to have more then 200k clones running around we get to much of that as it is.


4 classes 8 ac 24 trees . That's not that many ways to go with out hybrids. I know most will
still go the " best way". But there are some that come up with a very good build that fits there play and do well with it.

I don't see any class as op right now not even mercs. Not solo any ways. Tanks make any healer or dps op , so its teams working together that are op.

One healer 1 tank is omg hard to kill.
Two tanks and a healer cross guarding is sooooo op. And yes one tank can guard the other tank that is guarding the healer .

Not sure if its a bug but tank one guards tank two, tank two pops the def skill then guards healer

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sithgrizley
02.13.2012 , 05:19 PM | #906
Quote: Originally Posted by shaidarlol View Post
anyone can use frozen shock water, it has nothing to do with sorcerers...not even sure why you brought that up, or do believe only sorcerers can use it?

while yes i don't have to agree with someone else's opinion, it does not mean my opinion is wrong either.
Simply put, the longer the fight the better for a Sorc.

Two main reasons being many short cooldowns plus a complete lack of resource starvation.

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Lormif
02.13.2012 , 05:20 PM | #907
Quote: Originally Posted by DestyOwn View Post
"WE HAVE SOMETHING FOR EVERY SITUATION"
That does not equalte to OP. Everyone has something for every situation, it is if you know how to use it or not.. other classes even have the same amount of utility we do.

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Varicite
02.13.2012 , 05:22 PM | #908
Quote: Originally Posted by Khalirei View Post
Translating huge block of text.... DONE!


"Inquisitors are useless without every single CC, escape mechanic and defensive ability they have! If you even take away ONE of those, we are dead instantly!"


I lol'ed.
I'm the Powertech, FYI. I know it's very confusing because of the avatar, but stick w/ me here. Bounty Hunter Powertech.

He said that he knew what he was talking about, which he proved that he didn't.

He said that a Sorc could easily beat anybody through the use of that CC, which they cannot.

They do have an easier time against some classes, but there are plenty of classes (like mine) that will absolutely destroy them every single time.

In fact, the OP even plays one of these classes.
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sithgrizley
02.13.2012 , 05:23 PM | #909
Quote: Originally Posted by Lormif View Post
That does not equalte to OP. Everyone has something for every situation, it is if you know how to use it or not.. other classes even have the same amount of utility we do.
You're not even worth talking to.

No, other class has the volume and quality of utility that a Sorc has. Period.

Even the "Don't nerf me bro" Sorc vid at least admitted they have the best utility and claimed it was so they could kite. Trying to deny the amount of utility a Sorc has just makes me think that you don't use it.

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Lormif
02.13.2012 , 05:23 PM | #910
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post
I'm the Powertech, FYI. I know it's very confusing because of the avatar, but stick w/ me here. Bounty Hunter Powertech.

He said that he knew what he was talking about, which he proved that he didn't.

He said that a Sorc could easily beat anybody through the use of that CC, which they cannot.

They do have an easier time against some classes, but there are plenty of classes (like mine) that will absolutely destroy them every single time.

In fact, the OP even plays one of these classes.
funny, I dont think we have seen the OP since we showed him he has no clue what immobilize does.