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mothear
02.13.2012 , 05:14 PM | #901
Quote: Originally Posted by PjPablo View Post
LFD queue do not lead to content nerfs. Completely false. Wow started nerfing content before they even introduced x-server LFD. What logically would be the reason that LFG queues would lead to content nerfs. Keep in mind this is already the easiest, most casual, most accessible MMO on the market.
Not sure if serious ..... There were very few 'current' content nerfs in the heroic dungeons in WotLK pre LFD (Occulus, maybe HoL), but cataclysm was a different matter because people couldn't do the content successfully on a regular basis.

However to answer your second point, as I have already said LFD needs to be as hard as the poorest (worst geared/biggest newbie/least talented) person in your group, otherwise you will fail, unless the others are super geared and able to carry you. In WoW you have 5 people so 1 being carried is possibly OK, here there are 4, which is a big difference.

If the content is so easy 3 man it with a companion DPS, at least that will get you in the right mind for when LFD hits live.

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Heretiq
02.13.2012 , 05:17 PM | #902
Quote: Originally Posted by Ituhata View Post
No, he's going to get out into the world by standing in one place and teleporting instantly to a flashpoint and repeating. That's exactly what's going to happen. That's why there are so many people in org and sw, they're all just standing there waiting for queues to pop.
Or he'll go to whatever planet he is leveling on at the time, go crafting, chat or whatever, really.

What's it to you what he does while waiting for the invite to pop up anyway? At least with the LFG-tool he is given the choice as to whether to go out and get things done instead of standing around in the fleet and spamming in chat.
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ferroz
02.13.2012 , 05:18 PM | #903
Quote: Originally Posted by Ituhata View Post
No, he's going to get out into the world by standing in one place and teleporting instantly to a flashpoint and repeating.
No, he's going to go out and do stuff; like dailies. or leftover quests. Or world pvp. Or go do quests and kill stuff if he's under the level cap. He'll do it for 10-45 minute increments, while he waits on his queue to pop, depending on how long the queues are.

but he'll be able to do that AND do a flashpoint in the same night, instead of having to make a choice.

That's exactly what's going to happen.

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That's why there are so many people in org and sw, they're all just standing there waiting for queues to pop.
No, they're standing there because they're at the level cap, and there's nothing else for them to do but dungeons.

They were sitting around in dalaran last expansion, long before the lfd tool.

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mothear
02.13.2012 , 05:21 PM | #904
Quote: Originally Posted by Heretiq View Post
... So what exactly was your point again?

If I wanted to play WoW (which I don't) I'd just play WoW. Simple as that. There are several aspects that SWTOR just does better (Leveling, Crafting, Companions, Story-telling ... etc) and therefore I prefer to play SWTOR.

I just think that a Cross-Server-LFG tool (among other features like dual specialization, a fully customizable UI, addons, macros and a barber shop ... etc) would make this already good game even better.
Well you said that you were the majority and that's where the money is. I'm saying no, the majority play WoW and if you make end game like WoW people won't stay with SWTOR they will go back to Rift of WoW.

Oh noes you want addons as well, yikes.

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Ituhata
02.13.2012 , 05:21 PM | #905
Quote: Originally Posted by Heretiq View Post
Or he'll go to whatever planet he is leveling on at the time, go crafting, chat or whatever, really.

What's it to you what he does while waiting anyway? At least with the LFG-tool he is given the choice as to whether go out and get things done instead of standing around in the fleet and spamming in chat.
If you want the game to be a giant pretty call of duty lobby go for it. You can claim people are going to go do other things, but one they figure out you get more xp chain running flashpoints and better gear than anything you can craft at that level they're just gonna do what they do in wow, stand in one spot and take up space, maybe visit a vendor when their bags fill up and then go back to their pre-designated spot.

Don't make me laugh with the chat comment. If he actually talked to people I doubt he would have this chronic problem of spamming lfg in general.

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ferroz
02.13.2012 , 05:24 PM | #906
Quote: Originally Posted by Ituhata View Post
If you want the game to be a giant pretty call of duty lobby go for it.
We already have that. We'd like to move away from that

Right now, the way to get flash points is to stand in fleet and spam for a group. If you go do other stuff, you might as well write off the night.

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You can claim people are going to go do other things, but one they figure out you get more xp chain running flashpoints and better gear than anything you can craft at that level they're just gonna do what they do in wow, stand in one spot and take up space, maybe visit a vendor when their bags fill up and then go back to their pre-designated spot.
No, you'll still get better exp by questing in between flashpoints.

I got through most of the new northern barrens quest line on my hunter while chain running dungeons.

besides, I'm not convinced that you get better money and exp from flashpoints than from quests

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Don't make me laugh with the chat comment. If he actually talked to people I doubt he would have this chronic problem of spamming lfg in general.
No, I like to chat, and I still have that problem.

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Heretiq
02.13.2012 , 05:27 PM | #907
Quote: Originally Posted by Ituhata View Post
If you want the game to be a giant pretty call of duty lobby go for it. You can claim people are going to go do other things, but once they figure out you get more xp chain running flashpoints and better gear than anything you can craft at that level they're just gonna do what they do in wow, stand in one spot and take up space, maybe visit a vendor when their bags fill up and then go back to their pre-designated spot.
And how other people spend their time in the game concerns you how?

I know for sure that I'll still level the old-fashioned way just because I like it. And that's how it should be. I should be able to do what I like. If someone wants to level only via flashpoints/warzones then more power to him.

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Don't make me laugh with the chat comment. If he actually talked to people I doubt he would have this chronic problem of spamming lfg in general.
Or he can just let a fully-automated quality of life tool do that for him.
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harpuax
02.13.2012 , 05:28 PM | #908
The fact is there is a LFG tool. Not a great one but it is there. But NO ONE uses it. All you have to do is flag yourself LFG. Then those wishing to form a group search their who list by LFG and see all those wanting to run something.

So what is the issue with it?

A) people are just to dumb to use it.

B) people are so lazy they cant take a second to flag themselves

C) not that many people really want to pug.

D) not enough 50s yet.

E) server pops are too small.

Now I understand low pop servers. But I am on a fairly high pop server and there are 3! 50s using it right now 3! (142 in fleet atm).

Now I am not saying this tool is great but it is better than nothing. If people can't just que anything else is way too much work?

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ferroz
02.13.2012 , 05:31 PM | #909
Quote: Originally Posted by harpuax View Post
The fact is there is a LFG tool. Not a great one but it is there. But NO ONE uses it. All you have to do is flag yourself LFG. Then those wishing to form a group search their who list by LFG and see all those wanting to run something.

So what is the issue with it?

A) people are just to dumb to use it.

B) people are so lazy they cant take a second to flag themselves

C) not that many people really want to pug.

D) not enough 50s yet.

E) server pops are too small.

Now I understand low pop servers. But I am on a fairly high pop server and there are 3! 50s using it right now 3! (142 in fleet atm).

Now I am not saying this tool is great but it is better than nothing. If people can't just que anything else is way too much work?
F. People know from experience that such tools are ultimately useless. That's why the better designed tools in eq (at least 8 years ago) and wow were basically unused

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harpuax
02.13.2012 , 05:32 PM | #910
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
F. People know from experience that such tools are ultimately useless. That's why the better designed tools in eq (at least 8 years ago) and wow were basically unused
Yes but WHY are they useless?
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