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People leaving wz is now out of control.
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DaShuk
02.13.2012 , 03:43 PM | #331
This is a problem with all PVP games that they have never been able to fix. Try playing a first person shooter where it's 6 vs 6 in deathmatch and half your team rage quits and you get curb stomped every time.

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dardack
02.13.2012 , 03:43 PM | #332
Quote: Originally Posted by skyflash View Post
No its not.

AFKers only ruin their own game. Also, AFKers will be reported and get their very own deserters debuff anyway.

Leavers however ruin up to 10 games in the same time period. Leavers have to be severely penalized.
Until they fix how end game (BM gear) gear is aquired, the leaving is just going to increase as more people hit BM.

EDIT: Also how do AFK'rs only ruin their own game? You still 8v5 or w/e caue you have 3 afk's who every min attack someone to not get the debuff. Just saying.
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AidenPryde
02.13.2012 , 03:44 PM | #333
Quote: Originally Posted by skyflash View Post
No its not.

AFKers only ruin their own game. Also, AFKers will be reported and get their very own deserters debuff anyway.

Leavers however ruin up to 10 games in the same time period. Leavers have to be severely penalized.
What if I queue up and enter a losing WZ immediately because someone else quit or disconnected.

Now I am being penalized and my time wasted through no fault of my own.

Even under the current system I often enter WZs where the game is already lost.
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Bushranger
02.13.2012 , 03:46 PM | #334
Quote: Originally Posted by _Morholt_ View Post
Fixed

Don't spend resources on something that ain't as broke as some other things in this game....and in fact for a lot of players, works perfectly fine!!!

So what your saying is you are one of the ones who adds to the issue and quits at the first sign of a tuff game...

This needs to be fixed end of story
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Nangasaur
02.13.2012 , 03:46 PM | #335
Quote: Originally Posted by maradigamer View Post
This is the part I can't figure out. If we can't win whether I stay or go, who cares if I leave the match? Do you really love me so much that you want me to come farm kills with you off in some corner? Do you really hate me so much that when I'm on the enemy team you want me to stay while you push my face in over and over and over for your amusement?
No. What we want is punishment for the quitters so we DON'T have to deal with you quitting. Quitters gonna quit. Given. We won't have the revolving door of quitters which leaves a team constantly down 1 or 2 people, virtually guaranteeing a loss and totally un-fun match due to lack of competitive edge.

Please continue to threaten that you will just AFK in a losing match for 10 or 12 minutes. I'll continue to watch the sky for flying pigs and raining dogs. If it's such a waste of time for you to stay in a losing warzone that you are too impatient and just quit, you certainly won't just sit there and stare at your screen for 10 or 12 minutes doing nothing. At least not for more than a day.

You'll get tired of it incredibly fast.
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dardack
02.13.2012 , 03:48 PM | #336
Quote: Originally Posted by Nangasaur View Post
No. What we want is punishment for the quitters so we DON'T have to deal with you quitting. Quitters gonna quit. Given. We won't have the revolving door of quitters which leaves a team constantly down 1 or 2 people, virtually guaranteeing a loss and totally un-fun match due to lack of competitive edge.

Please continue to threaten that you will just AFK in a losing match for 10 or 12 minutes. I'll continue to watch the sky for flying pigs and raining dogs. If it's such a waste of time for you to stay in a losing warzone that you are too impatient and just quit, you certainly won't just sit there and stare at your screen for 10 or 12 minutes doing nothing. At least not for more than a day.

You'll get tired of it incredibly fast.
I know many people in WoW who do just that if they are loosing until they get their 1 win. They have dual monitors, they browse/watch w/e in 1 screen, with WoW in the other and just occasionally attack or w/e.
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Nangasaur
02.13.2012 , 03:50 PM | #337
Quote: Originally Posted by DaShuk View Post
This is a problem with all PVP games that they have never been able to fix. Try playing a first person shooter
You're talking about an entirely different genre of games and F2P games. MMO's fixed it a long time ago: quitters got punished, rightly so.

Problem solved. Game on.

Bioware just underestimated the amount of kids who would leave WoW to play SWTOR for a couple months, and expected the ones who did had already been conditioned into realizing it was better to stay, play, and have fun, or risk being penalized. BW didn't put in a penalty for these quitters. It was a rookie MMO-maker mistake, which they will soon fix; you can bet on it.
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skyflash
02.13.2012 , 03:50 PM | #338
Quote: Originally Posted by AidenPryde View Post
What if I queue up and enter a losing WZ immediately because someone else quit or disconnected.
Now I am being penalized and my time wasted through no fault of my own.
Even under the current system I often enter WZs where the game is already lost.
The basic idea is that people will not get send into BGs that already started, because it is mostly useless anyway.

A BG starts with 16 people, and those 16 play it to the end, or AFK, or D/C, or whatever. The problem stays inside that BG. If you D/C, you reconnect and go into the same BG. If you AFK, you get nothing plus a debuff from your mates. If you leave, you get the same debuff.

Thats it.

You play it to the end, if you want or not. If you dont make your daily, you dont make your daily. Who cares?

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_Morholt_
02.13.2012 , 03:50 PM | #339
Quote: Originally Posted by Bushranger View Post
So what your saying is you are one of the ones who adds to the issue and quits at the first sign of a tuff game...

This needs to be fixed end of story
Actually no I win most of my games and I HARDLY EVER SEE A QUITTER OR LEAVER.

Maybe you guys just need to L2P.

I really don't see where there's even a problem if some people want to leave so some other people can come in during the last 2 mins and soak up free valor even if they're getting farmed they don't have to engage the battle.

And I only ever quit before the beginning of a match when I see one of 3 super baddies on my team (maybe one of em is you)...after it starts I stick it out.
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AidenPryde
02.13.2012 , 03:53 PM | #340
Quote: Originally Posted by skyflash View Post
You play it to the end, if you want or not. If you dont make your daily, you dont make your daily. Who cares?
I do?

There is still a better system which I have outlined and no one has commented on. Don't make me start a thread about it.
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Through strength, I gain power.
Through Power, I gain victory.
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