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Lowerydro
02.13.2012 , 01:16 PM | #61
There are already ops/scoundrels admitting to taking dot specs because they can guard the left/right side of civil war by themselves against entire teams.

There is not enough UI customizations to know when teammates have dots on them, and not all classes can remove all dots.

Either it needs to change to a proximity capture based on clearing enemy or dots need to continue to do damage but not interrupt capping (Or get rid of the side speeders that are FAR too fast).

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Varicite
02.13.2012 , 01:17 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Furyofwar View Post
You need to L2play. You cannot Dispel,Cure,Cleanse a bleed. Any DoT that does "INTERNAL DAMAGE" can not be removed by casting a cleanse/cure or anything spell for that matter.
Sorcs/Sages can spec to dispel physical dots.

...that kettle sure is black, huh?
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Malice_Nihilim
02.13.2012 , 01:20 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by me_unknown View Post
would be nice to see more sorcerers/sages removing some of the dots of their allys

teamplay could help much :P
Problem is, that much of team play if founded on pre-mades, but since you can only assure that you get you and 3 other friends in and have no choice in what other classes even join you, that you are stuck with the 'un-luck of the draw'.

My suggestion, which is something that DAoC did. DoT's end at the moment of the casters death. So it wouldn't be as effective to just run in and suicide but DoT'ing up everyone first, until the main force can respond.
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byteresistor
02.13.2012 , 01:20 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Rehneu View Post
Of which again, directly affects some class specialization trees all together. Basically saying that the only thing some would be able to do is a pew pew or stabby stabby at best without using their skills.

All it would take to basically remove those players from the scenario then is to interact with the door to place the bombs.
There are no specs/classes which are ENTIRELY reliant on dots. All classes have some direct/instant damage abilities at their disposal.

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inseeisyou
02.13.2012 , 01:23 PM | #65
I agree that with an already 8 second activation time DOTs should not prevent objective caping. Obviously the ticks should still do damage but when you consider factors like how the Alderaan speeders take players straight back to points or the defenders spawn so close to the doors on Voidstar these 15 second DOTs are imbalanced for the game type.
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Wildcat
02.13.2012 , 01:23 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by me_unknown View Post
would be nice to see more sorcerers/sages removing some of the dots of their allys

teamplay could help much :P
It's as pointless as using your CC breaker. If you remove DOT's from someone it just gets reapplied a second later by ANOTHER enemy while your clear DOT ability is on cooldown...

This game DESPERATELY needs immunity timers, not just from CC but DOT's as well.
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Tenthletter
02.13.2012 , 01:26 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Lowerydro View Post
There are already ops/scoundrels admitting to taking dot specs because they can guard the left/right side of civil war by themselves against entire teams.

There is not enough UI customizations to know when teammates have dots on them, and not all classes can remove all dots.

Either it needs to change to a proximity capture based on clearing enemy or dots need to continue to do damage but not interrupt capping (Or get rid of the side speeders that are FAR too fast).
Sorcs can do it too in Alderaan. I do it all the time. Side speeder + Sprint + Death Field. Then DoT them all and run in circles for a while. Refresh DoTs when you get low, die, speeder back, repeat.

It's funny, I made this exact thread about two weeks ago and was flamed. Good to see not everyone is a moron. DoTs shouldn't break capture channels, or at least initial application should but not the resultant tics. I'd argue that they shouldn't break OOC regen channels either, but that's a different topic.

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Evil_Santa
02.13.2012 , 01:28 PM | #68
This is a terrible idea OP. DoTs are a huge part of PvP and while they can be annoying to you, there are already built-in ways to deal with them.

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02.13.2012 , 01:32 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Furyofwar View Post
Nothing but hater ******** coming from a baddie who wants a DoT nerf when its not broken

Now that I know your crying about a Nerf I wont waste anymore time discussing my Signature with a person who is jealous because your self accomplishments are non existent. I don't need to know you to know your bad. You reek of bad. You get jelly from stuff that does not pertain to you. That is classic hater/baddie attitude. You cry for nerf's when its not broken. Classic baddie attitude. When there is many different ways to get around the DoT's an capture a objective. An well your "Fantasy of being able to shoot range AoE DoTs from a million miles away". All are very laughable. But I can say at least you entertained me for 5min. I can go on an on. But I wont. I'll end our little discussion with this response knowing your a joke and continuing to do my thing.
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CrunchyGremlin
02.13.2012 , 01:32 PM | #70
I dont see as that big of an issue.
Before i learned resillence it sucked but it wasn't a game breaker.

Now that i have resilience i kill the defender and purge and cap. Or I start capping as they are dying. If i see no one capping when we are winning i go and cap.

I mean its an effective taunt if nothing else.


So maybe in the 50 queue this is a bigger deal.
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