Valor 70+ gear

I don't think the crowd that was already spoon fed their top tier gear should get it again through the screwed up valor system. Make them get it after a certain rank in rated battlegrounds so the scrubs actually have to be somewhat good or competent to get the best gear. Currently i haven't encountered a "battlemaster" (god that title is such a joke and carries absolutely no weight) that would be remotely close to deserving that gear.

So to understand correctly. you sggest they should never introduce a new set? they should simply make the current BM set the stagnant set for the entirety of the game? PUT everything you built in regards of pvp on the shoulders of people simply enjoying the "PvP experience"?

Lol dude, no offense but thats a crock of #$%^. Lol people, im sorry these whiners on these forums are going to need to get a clue real quick. You take things WAYYYYYY out of proportion. Dont get me wrong, pvp needs to be fun, FUN is the main factor, but basing the longevity of an aspect of an mmoRPG on fun factor alone is a HUGE flaw. This is an RPG, and gearing up is the NUMBER ONE ASPECT of a RPG. Look at games today, be it MW3, battlefield, skyrim.

Go into a pvp match, kill each other game over, repeat, repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat repeat. no gear, no gain nothing. just a scoreboard. and people will never get tired of that b/c its fun. b/c 15 bucks a month to play a mmorpg likes its a free first person shooter is what people aspire to do in a MMORPG.

People get on, do their dailes and log off. why/ b/c there is no GEAR gain anymore for them to do anything in regards to pvp. YET you have people complain that gearing up as a motive discourages new people from pvping b.c they dont have the gear yet and get killed by people who are geared.

The biggest thing people seem to blatantly ignore is you can GET the same thing those socalled untouchable superman geared people can get WITH TIME. But thats the issue the true enemy to you people is time and effort. dont try to blame on other things that have no relevancy. You simply dont want to put in time and effort, doesnt even have to be a grind just time and effort. Go play an xboxlive multiplayer then. This is an mmorpg what the heck did you expect?

Actually, since BW cannot redesign whole system in the GW style, they should at least use their own bolster system to minimise the gear gap (no matter if it was obtained through PvP or PvE grind). Before they will even think about releasing new gear tiers.


Wait, what? Player vs player mode is not actually about competition between the players, beeing better than other players? And btw. main aspect of RolePlayingGame is ... role-playing, not gear grind . I hope that you, so much concerned about RPGs, are at least using emoticons in the propper situations...


That is why I asked before - how do you imagine a system when fresh 50s are in a worse situation then fresh 10s because of enourmous gear gap. Do you really want discourage so many players that WZ que will last few hours?


As you stated, all by yourself, fun factor is the clue. I can put enough time and effort to beat player, if actually I'm given a chance. Increasing gear gap is taking this chance away from me even further - I might have enough skill to beat average BM geared, but I have nowhere enough leisure time to beat his grind time. It's not cool, and has nothing to do with PvP/MMO or gaming at all - games are meant to be some kind of challenge, yes, but are not hiting the concrete wall with your head.

If BW will introduce some smart bolster improvements to minimise the gap, there's nothing to be worry about. If top gear tiers will have their own brackets - well, ques will last an eon, but rest of players will have some fun. But if new tier will be threw into current system just like that *snaps* there's nothing good for PvP in this game.

Frankly speaking I'm more impatiently looking forward GW2. This franchise intriduced the best PvP that ever was implemented in any MMO (maybe apart from UO with full gear dead-drops. I would really like to see what gear progression follower says after a bunch of freshies loot his precious body; I'm also wondering if this ex-geared player would still insist that grind is fun - if so he shouldnt have any problems with getting the same gear again).

they better not put it any more valor gear considering they handed it to imperials for nothing

Althoug i see where you are comming from that carries a problem of its own.
If you are better than the majority of the player base why do you want better gear than them?
To stomp them even more than you already do? Where is the fun in that?

I will never agree with what Blizz did with arena gear and rating requiremnets because i preffer everyone have the possibility to have the same gear if they put time into it.
That way i have more fun and don't just pubstomp people.

Pubstomping is boring as hell.
Having a high rating is satisfying enough for me.
I dont want to compete with people who enter a rated system against me and have much worse gear. It makes no sense.

Best gear in the game should be....dare I say it....CRAFTABLE!
..otherwise what's the point of crafting.

....it promotes guilds and community...you buy/sell/trade with guildies and others in game.
Gear shouldn't be another form of grinding.

nuff said.

Go play WoW then they have like 6 years worth of tiers of shiney for you.

I love how you tried to attack my MMO experience then admit you've basically played 1.

and how much effort have they put into the other aspects of GW2? other than pvp? (...)

the difference between a fresh 50 and a bm may be big, but the diff between the other sets are minimal. unless you get rid of GEAR al together there will always be conficting groups complaining about gaps. There nothing wrong with gaps, privided there is a reasonable time frame between the introduction of new gear and the consolodation of the old.

I.e. when you introduce a new tier pf pvp, reduce the old to readily available by lesser means. Thus all news will be able to get bm and all bms will be working on bm2.0 and the gap is minimal. should you force a players to continue to go through EACH tier 1 2 3 to reach the new 4 that is a flaw and is not the direction they are taking. thats why i say this whole argument of "the gap" is irrelevant.

People whining are people who arent in it for the fun, fun for them is a skillless challenges that puts them on the top of the scoreboard every game without effort. the sorcs spamming speed and lightninig, the tracer missles one of the MILLION commandos that exist. and the one thing that will always prevent them from total 100% op advantage is the progression of gear.

Currently there is no in-game incentive to queue up a warzone after your routine 3 daily wins if you're valor 60+.