Valor 70+ gear

I've never played WoW, I came from Final Fantasy 11. Shines are what keep people subbed, just because you and your 12 friends don't want to grind doesn't mean the rest of us don't.

I WANT SOMETHING TO GRIND. I want something to do besides turn on my game, do my pvp dailies then stand around and wonder what else I could do other than level another character to 50.

I was afraid this moment will eventually happen. How many new tiers are you expecting? How great gap between players will be crossing the red line? Do we really need a situation when fresh 50 will be worse, than 10 in 10-49 brackets? Having a mix of ceuntrions/ purples and one champion offhand gives me currently at most chance to tickle full champion+ geared. How do you imagine PvP if there were higher tiers? 1 ubamaster stomping 8 fresh people without a sweat?

Gear progression in PvP is a dead end. Inevitably with new tiers introduced to maintain grinders interest. There will be grinded untouchable supermans and no new blood flowing into PvP system. Will the PvP survive in the long term? I really really doubt that (although I really really wish this game to succed).

Can people that use WoW as an example of how things should be please go back there or explain why they are not still there?

WoW lovers a game exists for you. It is called World of Warfcraft.

I don't know why people are such afraid of gear gap in this game.

In WoW for example at WOTLK (i made all wow builds, from vanilla to cata), when a fresh 80 hit his max level and start to do PvP, he was DESTROYED by arena players who could be 4 or 5 gear tiers above his leveling stuff (lvl 78 craft at best).

By "destroyed" i mean litteraly 2 or 3 shot with no chance to fight back.

But he would start doing arenas, staying in low ratings and farming low tier gear in open battlegrounds and he will eventually get better gear, so he would climb arena ratings and get even better stuff and so on...

That is how it works and how it must work. And don't misunderstand me; i have been on both sides of the stick, roflstomping newbies with my shiny T5 at 1v3 AND been completely roflstomped when switching main character and beginning an alt.

But never, ever, i had the idea to come on forums to cry at gear gap...


And if you think BW wont add more gears tier you have just no experience how a MMO like ToR works. The only question is; when will they add a new tier? I hope it is very soon.

that's reasonably sensible to be honest, but its fine to stop at battlemaster they need to readdress gear distribution and how you acquire it just constantly adding recolored sets and different bags being allocated isn't going to keep people engaged. At the moment everyone who claims to like pvp should be happy to pvp for the sake of pvping and not need the pat on the head gear to keep you interested.

the fact you want increasingly better gear only shows that you're a bad pvper who wants easy victory over challenge. it is the fault of you and your wow-ilk that the genre is in this mess where AAA development companies create mediocre gear grind endgame content instead of creating dynamic pvp and expect us to pay a premium subscription for it.