Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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PjPablo

02.13.2012 , 10:33 AM \| #601
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun Maybe because the reality is you guys just want it - because WoW had it? That is lazy. The real problem you guys have is that of a low server pop...rather than petitioning for BW to resolve the ACTUAL problem, you demand a xsvr LFD which is, lets be honest, a sledgehammer to crack a nut scenario. Why force mechanics into the game which, as many posters can testify, bring as many problems as they create....instead of you know, getting the actual problem sorted? Seems kind of lazy to me... Driz I want it because it solves the issue it was designed for. Quick groups. I could not care less if it were in WOW. If it works it works. I think some DON'T want it just because it was in wow. As far as pop issues there are two basic solutions. Transfers and merges. Merges are not going to happen so you can count that one out. There should be transfers, but why not introduce LFD since not only does it address some of the issue caused by pop issues but it also helps people get groups quickly regardless of pop? As an optional tool those that don't like it can choose not to use it. I just don't understand the opposition to an OPTIONAL tool. Also can we please stop the 'lazy' stuff? The game is about as 'lazy' as you can get in a MMO, using the definition that it seems people are throwing around here. A game in which you can have max level characters, all BIS gear, all raid content cleared, etc in 30 days is about as 'lazy' as it gets.

PjPablo

02.13.2012 , 10:34 AM \| #602
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun Your post is purely anecdotal as well?? Just like every single one of the "pro" posts in this thread. Just like every single one of the "con" posts in this thread. See where I'm going with this? there are no facts or numbers or data available...this entire thread is anecdotal so why does the pro anecdotes carry any more validity than the con anecdates? Driz Um yes. Which is why I said all evidence is anecdotal. Your point? Also when you have an OPTIONAL tool you can choose whether to use it or not based on your own experience and opinion.

ferroz

02.13.2012 , 10:35 AM \| #603
Quote: Originally Posted by Amiracle If there are thousands then why cant they find each other? Oh, I get it. The only people looking for group are all on different servers, or at different levels, or looking to do different content, or playing at different times, etc. fixed that for you.
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EvilTrollGuy

02.13.2012 , 10:36 AM \| #604
Quote: Originally Posted by RachelAnne It will destroy the feeling of beeing known, this is a fact. At wow I knew half my server at vanilla, at WOTLK I knew 15 people and that was my guild. If you join a specific server then because of the rules there and its people. All this does not exist anymore at a random tool that matches you with people from different servers. This is what I don't get. Apparently the only way to be social is through FPs in this game. If BW implemented Pazaak, an expanded casino and useful cantinas would be even be having this issue you're suggesting? People would still have server-wide activities. It's a shame how the only social activity in any MMO is through instances, especially because there hardly is any 'socializing' going on when playing like that.

Introvertus

02.13.2012 , 10:36 AM \| #605
Quote: Originally Posted by mangarrage The irony of it all will be when all the people in support of the x server lfd tool all start making posts about how they get booted from groups for no reason, too many people are ninja looting stuff and that people were needing for companions We've already seen some posts on these thing but now the forums will be filled with them You want lfd you want dual specs you will only have yourselves to blame for the game So all of you supporters will be posting about how some guy from x server stole your loot and then youll make posts about how horrible the game has become and you can thank yourselves for it being that way. Then you will all move on to another game and try your best to ruin that one as well yeah because we're like, the bane of all evil for wanting something that makes the game slightly more enjoyable. How exactly will dual specs ruin the game?
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Kaelshi

02.13.2012 , 10:37 AM \| #606
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun Your post is purely anecdotal as well?? Just like every single one of the "pro" posts in this thread. Just like every single one of the "con" posts in this thread. See where I'm going with this? there are no facts or numbers or data available...this entire thread is anecdotal so why does the pro anecdotes carry any more validity than the con anecdates? Driz it would be silly to say that the LFD tool INCREASES bad behavior. It makes much more sense to say that an LFD tool increases your contact with people who behave badly. The tool did not MAKE someone act like a jerk - that person was a jerk already and was going to act like that regardless of the tool. There are advantages and disadvantages to an LFD tool. The obvious advantage is it is easier to find a group to do content. The disadvantage is you will meet people you would normally avoid and they will act like a jerk. It is completely a matter of opinion for each individual person on whether the benefits of an LFD outweigh the negative aspects of it.

PjPablo

02.13.2012 , 10:38 AM \| #607
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaelshi it would be silly to say that the LFD tool INCREASES bad behavior. It makes much more sense to say that an LFD tool increases your contact with people who behave badly. The tool did not MAKE someone act like a jerk - that person was a jerk already and was going to act like that regardless of the tool. There are advantages and disadvantages to an LFD tool. The obvious advantage is it is easier to find a group to do content. The disadvantage is you will meet people you would normally avoid and they will act like a jerk. It is completely a matter of opinion for each individual person on whether the benefits of an LFD outweigh the negative aspects of it. HEY NOW!!! Your logic has no place 'round these parts.

corbanite

02.13.2012 , 10:38 AM \| #608
cross server LFD looks like a great way to get my companions geared. I'll be needing on everything for them and leaving the second I get what I want. yay for no queues as I am a tank.
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ImperialSun

02.13.2012 , 10:40 AM \| #609
Quote: Originally Posted by PjPablo Um yes. Which is why I said all evidence is anecdotal. Your point? Also when you have an OPTIONAL tool you can choose whether to use it or not based on your own experience and opinion. The point is context is key. The question was do we have any actual eivdence that LFD promotes bad behaviour. Your derogatory remark was "Its all anecdotal". You said that because it makes your own view sound more credible. If you were really being balanced your reply would have said both arguements for and against are purely anecdotal therefore no one can be sure... Driz

Introvertus

02.13.2012 , 10:41 AM \| #610
Quote: Originally Posted by PjPablo Also can we please stop the 'lazy' stuff? The game is about as 'lazy' as you can get in a MMO, using the definition that it seems people are throwing around here. A game in which you can have max level characters, all BIS gear, all raid content cleared, etc in 30 days is about as 'lazy' as it gets. Not to mention the fact that you can have 400 crafting on 3 professions without ever having left the trade section of the main city
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