Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

I've been wondering for something quite some time now. A lot of the arguments to NOT have a x-server LFD tool is because people don't want to play with 'bullies' who behaves badly because they're "protected" by the x-server system (being sort of anonymous).

So my question is, do we have any *real* evidence in this increase of bad behaviour? I mean, do we have any studies or any (experienced) developers acknowledgin this apparent fact?

Or is all we got some random people saying it?

In the case it's just random people, I'd like to know if they've considered the fact that you'll be playing MUCH MUCH more with a such system (a tank in WoW finds a group pretty much instantly) and will thus play a lot more than without the LFD tool?

Take it however you want, but I'm genuinely curious about this issue and I'd like to know if a developer such as say Blizzard have regretted implementing it in their game.

Haha. This is just lol.

I never said they couldn't find each other. I said it takes more effort than most people enjoy to find each other. And for the record, there are losts of servers, with lots of people on who play at different times. I'd wager quite a few of these are in my situation.

Even people who are on big servers and normally dont have huge problems with LFG, would probably still rather have one than not have one. I'd rather spend an hour doing PvP than pming people to put a group together. Guilds are an answer I guess, but then not everyone has a guild. Why should these people not be able to enjoy the game?

Maybe because the reality is you guys just want it - because WoW had it?

That is lazy.

The real problem you guys have is that of a low server pop...rather than petitioning for BW to resolve the ACTUAL problem, you demand a xsvr LFD which is, lets be honest, a sledgehammer to crack a nut scenario.

Why force mechanics into the game which, as many posters can testify, create as many problems as they resolve....instead of you know, getting the actual problem sorted?

Seems kind of lazy to me...

Driz

It's all anecdotal from what I have seen. For instance I can count on one hand the number of times I have been randomly grouped with someone on WOW that was intent on ruining the run. So my experience of LFD has been a positive one. If I were to run into a jerk here in a LFD situation I would handle it like any other time that happens in a regular group now. Kick, replace, move on.

Because it's not necessary.

I find it interesting that there is a subset of the more "hardcore" group of players who leveled relatively fast to 50 and lower level players who want to level to 50 faster. Half say the game is to easy and gear is to easy to get etc. The other have complain non-stop about getting a LFD tool that would inevitably well...make the game easier.

I don't care about anything you mentioned in your op as far as reasons there is not an LFD tool.

I just don't think it is needed right now. The WoW tool was implemented at a good time when a lot of people had passed by content and so adding heroics to the dungeons and a lfd tool gave incentive for ppl to either replay dungeons and it gave those who never had been doing those dungeons the ability to do it.

Within a few short months there will be a plethora of new 50's and no shortage of people willing to group up to do content from people on your own server.

p.s.

My own personal leveling experience is that I have no problem between pugs and my guild of finding people to do heroics with and I would not use a LFD tool atm.

It usually took me ~18 minutes to do both sets (molten front and the ones in hyjal); I usually had my queue pop before I was done, as a dps and then finished up the last one after the dungeon.

For those of us who liked doing more than 1 (for achievements, rare mounts, etc), getting those other groups were a lot faster once they added lfd. Other than that, there wasn't a change: before lfd there wasn't any reason to run multiple heroics unless you were gearing up, same for after lfd.

oh, there were some other reasons: Running normal toc to get the black heart for a tank who couldn't get a good 2nd trinket, for example, even if you were raiding. Or the last 3 heroics they added to LK, which had some nice drops even for people who were raiding casually.


and justice gear was way toward the end of Lich king, when they fixed the badges to be simple.

So, that was after Lich king was released, and therefore not a problem with the lfd tool, since that didn't happen until later?

Eh, I did tol barad much longer than that, to get the trinket, mount and pet.

Will we be able to play pandas? I mean ewoks?

Trion (the people who made Rift) certainly don't regret putting it in theres. Rift put a huge dent in WoW subs, and SWTOR hasn't pulled more than a handful of Rifters away from the game because Rift just works... wheras SWTOR doesn't really work that well.

Thats not just to the absense of a LFG system, but having one in would be a huge sub-keeper for a lot of people.

That's not an argument against it.

The trooper class isn't necessary. That doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.

I would hope so... I've been playing pretty casually and I've been 50 for a few weeks.

that's not going to fix the problem though.

The irony of it all will be when all the people in support of the x server lfd tool all start making posts about how they get booted from groups for no reason, too many people are ninja looting stuff and that people were needing for companions

We've already seen some posts on these thing but now the forums will be filled with them

You want lfd you want dual specs you will only have yourselves to blame for the game

So all of you supporters will be posting about how some guy from x server stole your loot and then youll make posts about how horrible the game has become and you can thank yourselves for it being that way.

Then you will all move on to another game and try your best to ruin that one as well

Your post is purely anecdotal as well??

Just like every single one of the "pro" posts in this thread.

Just like every single one of the "con" posts in this thread.

See where I'm going with this?

there are no facts or numbers or data available...this entire thread is anecdotal so why does the pro anecdotes carry any more validity than the con anecdates?

Driz