What does the 1-49 bracket teach us about PVP gear?

Still though, I don't know how you'd pull it off. Some shmuck who has 80+ hours a week to play is ALWAYS going to find SOMETHING that gives them an edge over others.

Hell, untill it got out, the Pure Shockfrozen Water was a great example of this.

By the way, that water kicks so much ***.

the problem is the OP is a baddie and possibly has a life... maybe you should try a different genra of game? if not i heard GW2 caters.. =)

i love progression.. and if i gotta get wrecked on the journey there.. so be it.. but then when that journey ends i can stand toe to toe with the other "baddies" and prove skill>gear

and also wreck the newer 50s who are busy progressing^.^

People that didn't like pvp stats in other games don't like pvp stats in new game.

Nothing to see here.

Then you don't like PVP.

Burps in the system are going to happen. Nothing created by man can be perfect. However it is in striving for perfection that we can at least achieve greatness.

pvp without progression is empty and pointless

unless it had a runescape style like the wilderness. otherwise you will have 15 hour WZ queus. because i promise you no one will play it

but i do like the idea of "i keel u i getz u stoof"

Look at this thread filled with internet tough guys hiding behind gear.

heck.. while we are at it

"*** BOIFAIL I DONT EVEN PVE SO WHY THE HELL DO I GOTTA GRIND TO LVL 50 IF THE GEAR AND STATS DONT MATTER

AWL I WANT IS TO PVP.. INSTA LVL TO 50 NAO

As much as I agree with you, the OP has a point.

You have no idea how awesome it was to roll around, talking to people, and find out that they'd heard of you. I had no clue I had any notoriety at all until this guy named Chalk comes up to me asking for tips saying he'd heard that I was good. He hadn't gotten much help from the forums.

The whole thing seems to me to be not a lack of desire to work for something. But the OP is right, in that at the moment endgame gear is the end all be all of PvP and if you don't have it you're boned and there is NO other way to get it. Make whatever argument you want about the PvE gear, that look isn't for everyone aside from the fact that you have to do Ops or you'll be grinding into eternity. Skill is the deciding factor only AFTER you have it. And i'm sure its the same everywhere. Hell, until I got my MJC and my 35's together, I got worked too. You can draw a parallel there. But I was not REQUIRED to get roflstomped to progress it.

The OP really is slightly hypocritical by saying that this game is any more grindy than SWG was. The only difference is what you're grinding for and how you're grinding it. In SWG it was credits for any non-jedi, Holocrons AND credits for Jedi. Everyone had to grind the tokens for the Jewelry until that became tradeable (ruined the economy too).

The only real difference here is that you're pigeonholed into doing potentially losing PvP in order to create the same end result.

I believe the OP has valid observations.