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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Vulgarr
02.13.2012 , 09:12 AM | #501
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
No, the guy who ninja'd the ony mount ran pug raids pretty much every night, and he never had any significant problem getting people to join him. Same goes for the other couple of people who abused masterlooter to nab items. They just ran their own raids, and joined guilds, with no problems.

There were some guys on my server in EQ were scum, but they stayed in some of the top guilds on the server. Both Comps and EV had some real pieces of work (I had them train me, and KS a named on a number of occasions); they were the top 2 guilds on the server until Sol Invictus stole the march on them and beat them into Time during PoP; they stayed in the top 3 guilds until right before I left the game (where EV broke back up into the old elitists and vagrants as separate guilds).

No, there isn't any of that.

No, I've seen WAY too many people run character assassination attempts on people to trust anyone spamming general chat about how X did Y terrible deed.
if it didnt do any good, then why on earth would people attempt to assassinate someones character?

you proved my argument for me.

and a bogus assassination attempt is easy to figure out.

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darkcerb
02.13.2012 , 09:12 AM | #502
Quote: Originally Posted by iceperson View Post
has community been mentioned?
Yes, by you and has countless arguments against that been made? yes.

how about you catch up on the thread first eh?

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ferroz
02.13.2012 , 09:12 AM | #503
Quote: Originally Posted by Sathla View Post
Lack of LFD tools means everyone will stand on the fleet and level 10 to 50 in one spot.. enough said.
fixed that for you.

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Vinge
02.13.2012 , 09:12 AM | #504
SWTOR is too far gone to worry about community, so LFD is the logical next step down the road it set out along some time ago.

Personally I think it's a shame and probably won't be playing much longer as a result, but I can't really blame the devs for doing it now.

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darkcerb
02.13.2012 , 09:13 AM | #505
Quote: Originally Posted by Niyenna View Post
It's simple: would you rather do the same endgame content over and over with random strangers or with friends who will chat and joke around? Just like your town has people you would never associate with it also has people who's company you genuinely enjoy and who make average experiences more fun.

The idea of community is that the time you spend in MMOland has the same social aspects as roaming the real world with friends.
That's what a guild is for.

Do you start up conversation's at bus stops? take down phone numbers there?

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Senatsu
02.13.2012 , 09:13 AM | #506
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
that's a reason for you to not use one, not a reason for it not to be added to the game.
Let's say 70% of the server will use it at launch.

30% of them knows exactly what it is, 20% wanted to just try out this new and strange feature, 20% used it because most of their friends are in the 50%. That ups the numbers to 70%, leaving the people against LFD with a MASSIVELY reduced server playerbase. What other option do they have besides jumping into the bandwagon and do it themselves? They can refuse to use it, and be left in the mud, or they can join with the other people and stay on the same gear level (please don't think this is exclusively about gear acquisition).

Now you have 100% of the playerbase using it. I really hope you understand why it's not optional. It's an indirectly forced system, you can't refute that in any way.

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Vulgarr
02.13.2012 , 09:13 AM | #507
Quote: Originally Posted by darkcerb View Post
Yes, by you and has countless arguments against that been made? yes.

how about you catch up on the thread first eh?
i wouldnt say 3 or 4 countless. and those 3 or 4 wasnt even very good arguments.

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Plexima
02.13.2012 , 09:13 AM | #508
Quote: Originally Posted by Sathla View Post
LFD tools means everyone will stand on the fleet and level 10 to 50 in one spot.. enough said.
As if that's not happening right now already. The only thing that will change with a LFD tool is the quality of life for people unguilded, or in small/inactive guilds.

The argument for not having a LFD tool is equal to arguing against 3rd party addons...in reality, the only effect they bring to the community is improving player quality of life.

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Heretiq
02.13.2012 , 09:14 AM | #509
Quote: Originally Posted by Senatsu View Post
Today, I took to the streets. I went on a server stated as Low (being especially low during that time of day since most people were working), but I had to see for myself how horrible you guys must have it.

Your arguments are complete, utter, illogically, blatantly obvious filled with bollocks, so much so I can still feel some after shock from discovering that you guys are talking ******** about the time it takes to find a group. I went on the fleet, trying to find a group for Hammer Station and guess what? It took me 3 minutes of whispering 7 people to get a group ready.

3. Freaking. Minutes.

If you have a hard time finding groups on your server: go to the who list, find people of equal level (or whatever is necessary to do the FP) and whisper them. Ask them kindly, like:

"Hey. Are you a tank, if so, would you be interested in doing Hammer Station?"

"Hey. My group needs a healer for Hammer Station, do you wish to come?"

"Hey. I have a group going for Hammer Station, wanna come and DPS?"

I got 1 tank, 2 healers and 1 DPS that turned me down, and they were polite about it. One of them even went:

"Sorry, I'm about to head out now. But, I can add you to my friends list and we can team up when I get back? Shouldn't take more than 3-4 hours until I'm home again "

Going around spamming "/1 LFG for Hammer Station, I'm DPS", without putting any more effort into it will of course leaving you to wait a loooong time. Put some time into it, and how much time? 3. Freaking. Minutes.

Stop being lazy folks. That is all.
I'm ashamed that we have the same avatar right now. Leave Shae alone.

Why on earth would I want to talk to random people and look through a /who list when a fully automated grouping system can do just that for me? In a faster and more convenient manner moreso?

I can just go to whatever planet I'm leveling on at that time, do my quests, craft, chat or whatever. All while I'm in the queue. How is that bad?

Please stop using electricity. Stop using your telephone. Stop using your car. Stop using everything that saves you time - I seriously don't care. Go ahead and live in the stone age. But don't force others to do the same thing just because you like doing stuff your way.
English is not my first language.

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iceperson
02.13.2012 , 09:14 AM | #510
Quote: Originally Posted by darkcerb View Post
Yes, by you and has countless arguments against that been made? yes.

how about you catch up on the thread first eh?
sorry, i'm choosing to ignore those responses just like the people who ignore the community argument against LFD.

so, let's talk about community.