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Roak
02.13.2012 , 05:34 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by BubblegumYeti View Post
I always thought people PvP-ed for the thrill, the competition and not for the gear.
they did, before wow conned its players into thinking gear is the only thing worth playing for. now we have the entire endgame system deigned around that illegitimate truth.
things need to change
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Gwal
02.13.2012 , 05:34 AM | #32
Damn phone double posted for me.

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Hahkil
02.13.2012 , 05:35 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by BubblegumYeti View Post
I always thought people PvP-ed for the thrill, the competition and not for the gear.
Nah, you're only thinking of the skilled PvP players for whom gear is merely a side-trophy.
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02.13.2012 , 05:36 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Roak View Post
Correct, because pvp progression should be done through open world activities
Uh, why? PvP progression should be done through PvP. Warzones are PvP.

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If they are not fun, they should be ghost towns, the fact they would be ghost towns if gear progression was not tied to them proves they are not fun.
Operations would be ghost towns if they didn't drop loot. Your argument stinks.

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nbittel
02.13.2012 , 05:36 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by TheLakers View Post
Thats what rated warzones are for.



Not really. The gear advantage from Battlemaster isn't very significant over Champ. Not to mention diminishing returns at 500 expertise and most BMs are running around with plenty of PvE gear on.



Thats what cross server warzones are for. And adding more gear incentives would put MORE people into warzones. Currently there is no in-game incentive to queue up a warzone after your routine 3 daily wins if you're valor 60+.



New 50s can get geared in full cent/champ in a week. That is not a problem. And considering how easy it is to level a 50, your argument doesn't even belong in the thread.



Again, its called RATED WARZONES.

And fresh 50s with orange and lvl 40 greens should be getting demolished by someone that has spent hundreds of more hours PvPing.
You're throwing around this rated Warzone thing, you never mentioned that in the original post. I have no problem with rated Warzones so long as a gear reward isn't attached to it.

I want actual competition in PvP, I don't want to stomp all over a bunch of people because they can't play 12 hours a day. I want to win because I'm better, not because my chest piece is more purple than theirs.

Those who can't afford to play for 12 hours a day for whatever reason look at the gear gap and are intimidated by it. While it may have taken you a very short time, for someone who can't play as much that gap is much wider and getting curb stomped by you over and over because you have more free time isn't fun for them.

If you feel good about beating up on new 50's then thats your thing. I would rather have everyone on equal footing and actually have some competition. You have a gear advantage as it is, you don't need more.

If they want to give you some kind of visual upgrade, I'm fine with that but expanding the gear gap is bad for the game.

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02.13.2012 , 05:38 AM | #36
I love pvp in this game!
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Roak
02.13.2012 , 05:39 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by TheLakers View Post
Uh, why? PvP progression should be done through PvP. Warzones are PvP.

Operations would be ghost towns if they didn't drop loot. Your argument stinks.
warzones are mmolite minigames. mmorpg pvp is done in the game world.

endgame pve is for loot acquisition, pvp is for testing yourself against other players. I actually pity you for the fact you've never experienced a better system than tiered gear grinds.

my argument is solid.
things need to change
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silvercgull
02.13.2012 , 05:40 AM | #38
I SAID !!!!


CHAMP BAGS ARE THE SAME WAY BUT WORSE NOW!!


32 BAGS...NO TOKEN 1 for 1 exchange just 7 commedations.

1 Headpiece 67 tokens = 7 bags

1 weapon 123 tokens = 17 bags

THATS ONLY 2 PIECES OUT OF 11-12


THEY HAVE ACTUALLY STUNTED INCENTIVE TO REROLL TO REPUBLIC DUE TO THE GEAR HEADACHE.

MEANING.....IMP 3-4 TO 1 RATIO UNBALANCED POPULATION ALREADY GEARED WILL NEVER BALANCE OUT.


SO............AT LEAST YOU HAVE CHAMP GEAR !!!!!!!!!

i WILL BE VALOR 60 BEFORE I HAVE 1/2 MY GEAR WORST CASE, BEST CASE I WILL GET 2/3 WHEN IM A BATTLEMASTER.....GREAT FIX HUH??
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Roak
02.13.2012 , 05:42 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by silvercgull View Post
CAPS STUFF
fyi, I've ignored your posts in this thread twice now because it is all in caps.
things need to change
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Haralin
02.13.2012 , 05:43 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by rockyyy View Post
Then stop playing 12hours per day.. Im still not Rank 60 Not my fault you all rush the game and flame there is no content after 2month rofl
You only needed one day to reach Valor 70 as empire player, and BW never Rollback this day, so making a new Gear for Valor 70 is a free gift for most empire player.