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GrandMike
02.13.2012 , 05:16 AM | #21
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Why? People that put more time into PvP SHOULD be rewarded. It's called incentive.
People who kill trade all day should not be rewarded. Its called common sense.

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Exploiters should be dealt with. That doesn't mean the legit 70s should suffer.
Yes they should and they aint. QQ to BW. Say thanks to exploiters and kill traders.

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Jadeor
02.13.2012 , 05:20 AM | #22
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Where is it? The progression is a bit silly, as battlemaster isn't all that much better than champ. Yet bioware limits people to bags from dailies since no other tier exists. So you get to the situation where most BMs just log on for their 3 warzone wins/30 kills and then plays an alt. While the people that are time sinking into pvp after 65+ get no current benefit.

Also why do we keep getting new operations but no new warzones?
Due to the fact that most recent patch 1.1.2, dealt with the HUGE problem that nely dinged people struggled competing with the highest teir of pvp gear on the warzones, do you really think this would be a wise idea?

Play less, reroll an alt, or go to another game imo...

if you beat a MMO (pvp part) 2months after release and expect more "content"(gear), MMO's probably arent the right for you.

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TheLakers
02.13.2012 , 05:21 AM | #23
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Further expanding the gap between veterans and new players
Thats what rated warzones are for.

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You already have the gear advantage that you wanted, be happy with that. There is no need to make things even harder on new PvPers.
Not really. The gear advantage from Battlemaster isn't very significant over Champ. Not to mention diminishing returns at 500 expertise and most BMs are running around with plenty of PvE gear on.

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People complain about long queues but they still want better and better gear.
Thats what cross server warzones are for. And adding more gear incentives would put MORE people into warzones. Currently there is no in-game incentive to queue up a warzone after your routine 3 daily wins if you're valor 60+.

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Making things more accessible for new 50's is the best thing for the game, it's fresh competition and new people to play against.
New 50s can get geared in full cent/champ in a week. That is not a problem. And considering how easy it is to level a 50, your argument doesn't even belong in the thread.

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If you make the gap too wide, new 50's will avoid PvP because they'll refuse to get demolished simply because they were a late adopter or didn't rush to 50.
Again, its called RATED WARZONES.

And fresh 50s with orange and lvl 40 greens should be getting demolished by someone that has spent hundreds of more hours PvPing.

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Hahkil
02.13.2012 , 05:23 AM | #24
And when you and all your PvP friends (and a large part of the PvP community) hit the new tier of gear within a short period of time and end up in the exact same position you are in now, will you complain you want valor 80+ gear?

Point is, the gear has to cap at some point, and if you are a true PvP player, gear is not the only reason you'd play PvP, Hint: It's called "FUN".
If you've got the credits, you've got yourself a deal.

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rockyyy
02.13.2012 , 05:25 AM | #25
Then stop playing 12hours per day.. Im still not Rank 60 Not my fault you all rush the game and flame there is no content after 2month rofl
It's a trap!

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TheLakers
02.13.2012 , 05:29 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Hahkil View Post
And when you and all your PvP friends hit the new tier of gear within a short period of time and end up in the exact same position you are in now, will you complain you want valor 80+ gear?
Not really. 60-70 is a much steeper climb than 20-60. If Bioware wanted to cap the pvp progression they should have made the max valor rank 65 or something, which they did not.

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Point is, the gear has to cap at some point, and if you are a true PvP player, gear is not the only reason you'd play PvP, Hint: It's called "FUN".
Gear shouldn't cap at an easily attainable rank like 60. And why should gear cap at 60 when the max valor rank is supposedly 100?

Warzones would be absolute ghost towns if PvP rewards did not exist. Your 'fun' argument is silly and also assumes the legit 70s aren't having 'fun'. Which again, doesn't make any sense considering they are PvPing more than most of their server with the only incentive of being 'fun'.

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TheLakers
02.13.2012 , 05:31 AM | #27
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Then stop playing 12hours per day.. Im still not Rank 60 Not my fault you all rush the game and flame there is no content after 2month rofl
It's not their fault you keep rolling alts.

People that consistently win their warzones also rank up much faster than people that don't.

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Roak
02.13.2012 , 05:32 AM | #28
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Warzones would be an absolute ghost towns if PvP rewards did not exist. Your 'fun' argument is silly and also assumes the legit 70s aren't having 'fun'. Which again, doesn't make any sense considering they are PvPing more than most of the server with the only incentive of being 'fun'.
Correct, because pvp progression should be done through open world activities and a separate progression should be done through competitive instanced matches. warzones in their current state should be for fun (xp and credits are ok too to allow people to level through pvp) and not for pvp progression.

If they are not fun, they should be ghost towns, the fact they would be ghost towns if gear progression was not tied to them proves they are not fun.
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silvercgull
02.13.2012 , 05:32 AM | #29
CHAMP BAGS ARE THE SAME WAY BUT WORSE NOW!!


32 BAGS...NO TOKEN 1 for 1 exchange just 7 commedations.

1 Headpiece 67 tokens = 7 bags

1 weapon 123 tokens = 17 bags

THATS ONLY 2 PIECES OUT OF 11-12


THEY HAVE ACTUALLY STUNTED INCENTIVE TO REROLL TO REPUBLIC DUE TO THE GEAR HEADACHE.

MEANING.....IMP 3-4 TO 1 RATIO UNBALANCED POPULATION ALREADY GEARED WILL NEVER BALANCE OUT.


SO............AT LEAST YOU HAVE CHAMP GEAR !!!!!!!!!

i WILL BE VALOR 60 BEFORE I HAVE 1/2 MY GEAR WORST CASE, BEST CASE I WILL GET 2/3 WHEN IM A BATTLEMASTER.....GREAT FIX HUH??
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BubblegumYeti
02.13.2012 , 05:32 AM | #30
I always thought people PvP-ed for the thrill, the competition and not for the gear.